Éamon de Valera on the Easter Rising
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We deserved to be free and Dev was right to say so
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@MrRobertJameson indeed. It's also quite ironic that if Home Rule would have been passed, Irish Rebublicanism and the IRB which were a micro sect at the time in comparison to the peaceful Irish Parliamentary Party and the Irish Volunteers (both pro Home Rule within UK) would have never gotten off the ground. The Unionists in Ulster through this action severely weakened the IPP and that led to the rise of militant Irish Republicanism. The Unionists shot themselves in the foot in that regard
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@DaveOfIreland It's quite ironic really that Roger Casement was hanged for trying to import German weapons, when the Conservatives had actively encouraged loyalists to do the very same thing only a few years earlier.
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@MrRobertJameson The Act would have been implimented a lot sooner had the UVF not shipped in 25,000 rifles from Imperial Germany and threatened to start a civil war. It was a traitorous act against the people of Ireland and the rest of the UK, and it was spitting on the legitimacy of the House of Commons. Had this not happened then Irish Republicanism would have never gotten off the ground. The peaceful Irish Parliamentary Party was a political giant in Ireland, Irish Republicanism a micro sect
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@DaveOfIreland The UVF had the full support of the British Conservative Party.
It was the outbreak of World War I that caused the Act not to be implemented.
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@MrRobertJameson it wasn't implemented though. Whole point of my last comment. It would have been implimented up and running much sooner had the UVF not imported 25,000 German rifles and threatened the rest of the UK from 1912-1914. This action destroyed the wishes of the majority of Irish people to have a parliament within the UK, it also was highly disrespectful to the British Government and challenged the House of Commons legitimacy.
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@DaveOfIreland The Home Rule Act was passed on 18th September 1914.
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@MrRobertJameson there was no Home Rule implemented though. Reasons why? The Ulster Protestants went ape shit about the fact the whole of Ireland (themselves included) would be getting their own parliament within the UK. They set up the UVF in 1912 and threatened the whole of Ireland with violence if this happened, therefore spitting on the democratic wishes of the Irish people and the House of Commons. What did they threaten us with? 25,000 Rifles, shipped in from IMPERIAL GERMANY in 1914...
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@reystevens How did England (I assume you mean the UK) lose Canada? Canada was given self-rule in 1867, just as Ireland was in 1914.
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@DustyAndPistolPete Of course. The outbreak of World War I meant the Home Rule Act couldn't be implemented immediately. At the time everybody thought the war would be over in a matter of months.
There did not need to be a war or a civil war in Ireland. Home rule was in the bag for Ireland they just needed to wait until the war was over then they'd get it and a few years later declare a republic if there was demand there would be no blood shed. A stunt like the Easter rising fucked it all up.
midgiemarsh 5 months ago 6
Yeah but would you want the Brits back in Ireland when they had an army of alomst all eligible men in Britain. Easter '16 Republicans had nothing too loose by this stage 26 counties had something to loose.
godbrother10 2 years ago 3