Faith and Reason

Response about faith and reason. Is faith a virtue? Is faith reasonable?

This was originally a response to a video from a Christian that has since been removed.

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• god
• religion
• christian
• jesus
• blaspheme
• debate
• godfight
• atheist
• atheism
• faith
• reason

[thrdel]

Hi man, liked you video, but I think there are a couple of things that need to be clarified :

1.Faith is not a curse , stupidity , greed and ignorance are . Without them , faith would not exist.

2.It has been said that stupidity and arrogance go hand in hand. See comment about the secrets of religion being hidden from educated people and revealed only to believers. I guess you're barking at the wrong tree.

[MystryBox]

@thrdel speaking at me in near nonsensical cliches and platitudes doesn't work well for me. I'm not even quite sure what you're saying. Why not make an argument in your own words that makes rational sense to you rather than just repeating things you heard somewhere else before.

[mknomad5]

Thank you, Lord, for hiding these things from the wise and learned (those with book knowledge), and revealing your truth to simple men of good heart.

[MystryBox]

@mknomad5 talking to people that aren't there isn't a good sign.

[djhopler]

Oh I'm sorry if I sounded abrasive. That wasn't my intent. Name-calling isn't my bag either man. I'm just trying to understand you. Don't you think that saying that no evidence what-so-ever exists for God is a little steep? There are a lot of very intelligent Christians out there. The Bible is a book scrutinized for centuries. Everybody is looking for error in the Bible, and yet it has stood the test of time don't you think? I enjoy talking with you dude!

God Bless,

Daniel

[MystryBox]

@djhopler certainly there is evidence for god... the bible is evidence for god for instance. However the bible is hardly good evidence and that's the problem--there's just no good objective evidence. Obviously you might have a different view, but that's mine.

[psychicpriest]

@psychicpriest I meant the town of Nazareth did not exist prior to the 2nd century. And what about the census talked about in the bible? At no time was there a census where families had to travel to another town to get counted. Yet that is what the bible claims.

[psychicpriest]

@djhopler The bible has certainly not stood up to unbiased scrutiny. Jesus of Nazareth never existed before the 2nd century. No proof of the Jews being held captive in Egypt- the lists is way to lengthy for a response in this box. Out of that one book comes over 30,000 denominations. The followers of that book cannot agree amongst themselves. Please outline the evidence for god.

[AntDX316]

what u dont understand is.. not enough thinks as clean as u

[FRdemo9]

@rkengelhard Wow! What a typical response from a religious person (any religion). I thought mystry described faith perfectly. I would love to hear what your faith is like. I guess mystry didn’t spend enough time in Sunday school getting that real faith beat into his head. Everyone is born an atheist.

[rkengelhard]

@djhopler I don't anticipate a big diffrence in our ideas concerning the defintion of the word evidence, rather most likely won't see eye to eye in terms of our interpretation of evidance provided in the universe toward a belief in God. I think the key word here is plausability. What is more plausible based on the data/evidence currently available to us? Is it more plausible to believe that the universe evolved unaided randomly. Or was it aided by a Creator? the basic theist vs. atheist prob

[yessslife]

If you look at Hebrews 11, what you see is a conflated use of the word faith, (used as a starting point from which a relationship with God grows, Heb. 11:6) a little like your def. (or as an addition to past experience and evidence from which greater confidence is required), more everyday type of faith. It’s not simple coincidence that both forms of the word appear side by side here. No wonder that the word developed to contain both meanings.