3-Way Debate (Full Debate) Part 13

Part 13

Category:

Education

Tags:

• God
• Creation
• CSE
• Kent
• Hovind
• Young
• Earth
• Old
• Evolution
• Heresy
• Michael
• Shermer
• Skeptic
• computer
• science

[BeRealistic101]

Are you kidding? He's the epitome of a charlatan.

[patricknelson]

I was about to say he plants questions too -- I juts realized how does he already have powerpoint slide shows ready to help him explain his answers? That's a coincidence, I'm sure!

[chuckinator0]

@ScholarlyGentleman81 You're right. I probably shouldn't use that analogy when commenting on a video with several ID proponents like Kent Hovind. I don't want to give a bad impression. For the record, I think that Kent Hovind is a dishonest fraud; please do not think I like him.

[ScholarlyGentleman81]

@chuckinator0 I don't necessarily agree with the analogy of software and hardware.. but I guess it's as close as it gets.. I don't like this analogy because comparing ourselves with machines leaves room for ID proponents... which I can't stand. Akin to calling DNA "information".. another analogy I can't stand.

Overall, we agree with each other though. I tried to read back, as far as what we have commented back and forth, but I couldn't really see a disagreement.

[chuckinator0]

@ScholarlyGentleman81 Shermer is correct. As my comment states, we are born with a ton of software in the brain. "Tabula Rasa" is a proposition that a person is born as a "blank slate," i.e. no software, only hardware.  This is what Shermer's opponent claimed. Shermer's opponents here seem to be wrought with ignorance. What are you talking about?

[ScholarlyGentleman81]

@chuckinator0 Shermer said "we are born" knowing things... What are you talking about?

[ScholarlyGentleman81]

@TSURTIDOGNI Yes, Kent (in prison) offers 250k to anyone who can prove HIS INCORRECT DEFINITION of evolution... I have tried to collect.. All he has to do is say that what is presented is not accepted. Which he does... every time. Evolution is not only proven, it is applied. This argument is similar to stating "prove fire" and when I show you how I cook with it, you say "that's not good enough"...

Kent wants an answer to the beginning of the universe... and many others.. as his proof.

[chuckinator0]

"Tabula Rasa" is NOT accepted in modern psychology. We know that we are born with a TON of software in the brain. Why is Mike Shermer wasting his time with this sort of gross ignorance.

[chuckinator0]

"there's no evidence for evolution at all."

the ignorance......it hurts....

[irishmauddib]

Anyway my point was nothing to do with what the audience want to hear. My point was solely that there is enough reason to suspect that Hovind plants questions.

There is no proof of this of course, but having the slides ready for just that question and in other debates having a blown up and specially highlighted passage from SA magazine that the audience just happened to ask about, is just a little too convenient.

And, Hovind is not exactly known for honesty either is he?

[irishmauddib]

I do not know what your topic is, but my response was entirely on the topic of the point I am making. It is not for you to dictate to me what my point should be.

[Saxking2005]

@irishmauddib As I said A WEEK ago, people in the audience ask questions that they know the answers to just to get the answer- Who cares? Don't go off topic just because YOU DON'T LIKE the answer.