A Conversation with Tariq Ramadan

Trinity Institute's Bob Scott talks with Muslim author and academic Tariq Ramadan about religion and violence.

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[ColonelKudzu]

@ghazali22 So be it, as you say, but I have faced many other circumstances and in many other countries besides YouTube, my good fellow. I do not shrink from any tenets or doctrines that I believe in no matter where I may be at the time. I just happen to be here on this board with you at the present. If a man doesn't have the courage to take a stand on what he believes, then he must live with that or die with that, should that be the case.

[ghazali22]

@ColonelKudzu with all due respect, there is a difference between a public figure like Ramadan doing it, when he speaks publicly in these countries, and someone anonymously doing it on youtube that no one will really pay any attention to. i also condemn hezbollah and any other organizations that take part in suicide bombings, but this is really not the same as a public figure. he is not straddling the fence but taking historic stances. its easy to be brave online, in youtube comments.

[ColonelKudzu]

@ghazali22 I can understand what you are saying, but your own statement, "as this is a political declaration and could have ramifications on his safety.", is exactly what I am saying. He does not openly condemn a particular organization? Well, quite the contrary, I do. I denounce, condemn Heabolah, Hamas, and the entire laundry list as you put it, and I don't care who knows it or hears it. Apparently he is straddling the fence, which is what all Muslims have done that I am speaking about.

[ghazali22]

@norwidify don't be silly. ramadan is very aware of what you are saying above, what you are saying is Islam101 and common knowledge, PHD or not. read his books, don't just watch little youtube video and make grand statements like that. ramadan has often spoke about the spiritual dimensions of Jihad.

[ghazali22]

@ColonelKudzu i understand the question. by denoucing/condemning the act of suicide bombing against civilians, he is criticizing any organizations that partake in it. he does not need to make a laundry list of organizations that he specifically denounces as this is a political declaration and could have ramifications on his safety. an open condemnation of the act of violence is sufficient.

[ColonelKudzu]

@ghazali22 As you have stated, "Ramadan has openly denounced terrorist attacks on civilians in Israel during a debate with Christopher Hitchens".

In the debate you mentioned, did he openly denounce HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, or did he just denounce "Terrorism" as a Generic?

[ghazali22]

@ColonelKudzu Ramadan has openly denounced terrorist attacks on civilians in Israel during a debate with Christopher Hitchens. Furthermore, you say then you will listen to their "cacophony," why would their words still be considered "cacophony"...what you are calling for is a political statement, denouncing of terrorist attacks on civilians has been widespread in the Muslim community.

[ahmedgurgi]

Professor Tariq Mashallah is a good man with a good heart and is accepting of other peoples views, May Allah bless every step you take and correct our and your mistakes

[ColonelKudzu]

When I hear Ramadan or any other hypocritical Muslim openly denounce and condemn known terrorist groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, et al, I will listen to their cacophony.

[1461ranger]

@Camerounboy1983 Hey watch that kind of sayings. Do you have any proof you idiot?You know people look at the world the way they themselves are alright?

LOOk here may be no allah according to you but what if there is huh?Then you will be in what think about that.