@cheesemonkey1990 The meaning obviously hasn't been revealed to you because you are comfortable believing your man made doctrine. Bottom line. If you feel you have to get forgiveness from some priest, then you don't believe Christ's work on the cross is complete.
@cheesemonkey1990 You need to put away your catechism and read God's word in the bible alone. YOU need to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of God's word in the bible to you. I went to a catholic school and was brainwashed with this nonsense about confession until I started reading the bible and it became clear that we are totally forgiven when we come to Christ. AGAIN!!!! what you quote is taken out of context. Jesus wasn't giving the apostles power to forgive sin. You don't get it.
@yourtubesteak Receive the Holy Spirit, who's sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Who's sins you retain, they are retained." Yes he did. Plain and simple
@cheesemonkey1990 No Jesus did NOT give the apostles the power to forgive sin. No shedding of blood, no forgiveness. Jesus already took care of the forgiveness of sin at the cross. Forever. You obviously haven't read the whole chapter and taken that verse in context, but then again I wouldn't expect you to understand when you make a statement like Jesus founded the catholic church. Absolutely no point in talking about this anymore. You depend on your man made doctrines. I trust in Jesus alone.
@yourtubesteak You don't get it, Jesus gave the power to forgive IN HIS NAME to his Apostles. Also: the confession of sins can be see in the old testament as people were required to CONFESS their sins to the levites, after which they would prescribe an animal for sacrifice. It is truwe that with out the blood of Christ there can be no remission of sins, but the means of comminicating that Grace is the sacrament of confession.
@cheesemonkey1990 You keep going to confession to try and get your sins forgiven by some man. I'll "rest in faith" in what Jesus did for me ETERNALLY at the cross. They wages of sin are death. Jesus paid the wages. IN FULL. "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember NO MORE". How much plainer can it be. His shed blood and death prepared us for what he came to give us. Life eternal. You are dead spiritually until you come to Christ as savior and trust in HIM alone. You obviously don't.
@cheesemonkey1990 The catholic church was founded by Christ????? Your brainwashing is complete. No point in continuing this conversation. NO WHERE in the bible can you back up that statement. Jesus didn't found ANY denomination. Did Jesus preach about a mythical place called purgatory? Did Jesus establish all the so called "sacraments'? I could go on and on. All MAN MADE doctrines. There are numerous catholic doctrines that flat out contradict the bible.
@yourtubesteak The Catholic Church is the church founded by Jesus 2000 years ago. I have not said to you anything that is not straight out of the Bible. You can't legitamatley refute my arguments so you attack my person instead. This just goes to show your ignorance of the Bible and Christ himself.
@yourtubesteak I am directly quoting the Bible to you. You are the dilluded one here, not me.
cheesemonkey1990 1 month ago
@cheesemonkey1990 The meaning obviously hasn't been revealed to you because you are comfortable believing your man made doctrine. Bottom line. If you feel you have to get forgiveness from some priest, then you don't believe Christ's work on the cross is complete.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak 1: prove solo scriptura to me
2: my reasaons for believeing in confession ARE BIBLICAL. READ JOHN'S GOSPLE!!!!
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 You need to put away your catechism and read God's word in the bible alone. YOU need to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning of God's word in the bible to you. I went to a catholic school and was brainwashed with this nonsense about confession until I started reading the bible and it became clear that we are totally forgiven when we come to Christ. AGAIN!!!! what you quote is taken out of context. Jesus wasn't giving the apostles power to forgive sin. You don't get it.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak Receive the Holy Spirit, who's sins you forgive, they are forgiven. Who's sins you retain, they are retained." Yes he did. Plain and simple
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 No Jesus did NOT give the apostles the power to forgive sin. No shedding of blood, no forgiveness. Jesus already took care of the forgiveness of sin at the cross. Forever. You obviously haven't read the whole chapter and taken that verse in context, but then again I wouldn't expect you to understand when you make a statement like Jesus founded the catholic church. Absolutely no point in talking about this anymore. You depend on your man made doctrines. I trust in Jesus alone.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak You don't get it, Jesus gave the power to forgive IN HIS NAME to his Apostles. Also: the confession of sins can be see in the old testament as people were required to CONFESS their sins to the levites, after which they would prescribe an animal for sacrifice. It is truwe that with out the blood of Christ there can be no remission of sins, but the means of comminicating that Grace is the sacrament of confession.
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 You keep going to confession to try and get your sins forgiven by some man. I'll "rest in faith" in what Jesus did for me ETERNALLY at the cross. They wages of sin are death. Jesus paid the wages. IN FULL. "Their sins and lawless acts I will remember NO MORE". How much plainer can it be. His shed blood and death prepared us for what he came to give us. Life eternal. You are dead spiritually until you come to Christ as savior and trust in HIM alone. You obviously don't.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@cheesemonkey1990 The catholic church was founded by Christ????? Your brainwashing is complete. No point in continuing this conversation. NO WHERE in the bible can you back up that statement. Jesus didn't found ANY denomination. Did Jesus preach about a mythical place called purgatory? Did Jesus establish all the so called "sacraments'? I could go on and on. All MAN MADE doctrines. There are numerous catholic doctrines that flat out contradict the bible.
yourtubesteak 2 months ago
@yourtubesteak The Catholic Church is the church founded by Jesus 2000 years ago. I have not said to you anything that is not straight out of the Bible. You can't legitamatley refute my arguments so you attack my person instead. This just goes to show your ignorance of the Bible and Christ himself.
cheesemonkey1990 2 months ago