Refuting the Resurrection (Part 1: the Point of Contention)

As there are 12 tribes of Israel and 12 disciples, so it is God's will that this is part one of a 12 part series refuting the standard Christian apologetic argument for the resurrection.
This first video lays out the main ground of contention over which the entire issue turns: The Veracity of the Gospels. Either these are eyewitness accounts of the life of Jesus, or they are religious narrative intended to convey a spiritual message rather then to be read as history. Aside from establishing that the question of veracity of the Gospels is the main point of contention, this video also addresses the history of why the Christians believe what they do about the authorship of the Gospels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6h0VRXnGeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dAywNW0yn0
I will update these links as I find new and relevant videos.

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[pat34lee]

The gospels were not written 50-60 years after the events. Some were being circulated within 20 years.

Some of the best reasons for believing what was written about Yahshua (Jesus) were given by his apostles. After falling apart upon his death and being near to scattering, most ended up being martyred for their faith in him. How many people are willing to be tortured to death for what they know is a lie?

[tooltime9901]

@pat34lee "The gospels were not written 50-60 years after the events."

plenty of reasons to doubt that.

"most ended up being martyred for their faith in him."

that's a bit of an overstatement. see Profmth's video "did the disciples die for a lie?"

[conman2317]

this shit was votebotted just because the Christian's can't argue against Tooltimes points.

[eddieindahouse]

einstein wasnt religious, and yes intelligent people can be mentally ill (in one form or another)

[sammy2trees]

@pat34lee "most ended up being martyred for their faith in him. How many people are willing to be tortured to death for what they know is a lie?"

Are you kidding?

There are plenty of historical and contemporary examples of people who were willing to lay down their lives for their religious leaders. And NONE of these leaders had supernatural origins or powers!

The apostles strong faith in no way proves the miracles of the New Test or that Jesus was of supernatural origin. It's a very weak claim.

[KevZen2000]

I do not doubt if the gospels, were written around a descent time of hisory after the events, but the fact is there is no reason to accept the miracles, or to believe god had any part writting the gospels, if such beings exist. It was a common practice of ancient the Greco-Roman world to deify leaders, and to add mythology to their story.

[OsirisLord]

@TheTexanCanadian

Not so much theism vs atheism as it is religious though vs the scientific method, which are the respective bases. Religious thought comes from the basic knee-jerk reaction are brains make when we try to recognize an unfamiliar pattern. The scientific method is a more complicated, time-consuming method that one has to be trained in. Basically, religious people are intellectually lazy and damn proud of it.

[hexusziggurat]

@theherdmentality "christians have ALWAYS been quietly or outright killing other groups largely based on what they belive"

sure are quite a few murderers running around free then.

[TheTexanCanadian]

Here's the best metaphor I can come up with for theism vs. atheism:

Theism: finding puzzle pieces, not liking what the image ends up being, and deciding instead to paint an image that you want to look at and calling it real.

Atheism: finding puzzle pieces and putting them together with other puzzle pieces until you've got an image that you didn't make up.

[TheTexanCanadian]

LOL hexusziggurat blocked me because I was destroying him in pm's...

[theherdmentality]

@hexusziggurat christians have ALWAYS been quietly or outright killing other groups largely based on what they belive their religion says to do, so that peace and harmony is a bullshit statement. Like i said, I'd leave religious folks alone if they would leave me the hell alone and keep their stupidity and religiosity to themselves instead of trying to make laws based on thier religion or use my tax dollars to fund wars they beleive god told them tto

[hexusziggurat]

@theherdmentality another assumption "atheists vs. theists" why are the versus each other? People with differing viewpoints have lived in harmony for eons....its usually when people who are militant radicals feel they need to prove some point by hurting another (emotionally or physically) thats when bad things happen. I already know which camp you belong to.

[theherdmentality]

@hexusziggurat atheists vs. theists. is it that hard to figure out who i am or what i am agianst?