Ed O'Brien on illegal file-sharing [22/09/2009]

Ok, 'nuff said.

Category:

Music

Tags:

• ed o'brien
• radiohead
• illegal file sharing
• 2009
• bbc breakfast

[sankstar7]

Ed owns EVERYONE.

[Pyro25892]

All the people Lily Allen's recruited, you'd have to pay me to listen to LOL

[DaGavinX]

@danspivey91 Don't be so dramatic. They get paid for what they do. But what they want is to MAKE you buy their music and that's just pathetic.

[danspivey91]

@DaGavinX its not bands wanting MORE money, its getting paid what they are legally entitled to. computer games cost about 300% more than albums, but i dont see people bitching about that? oh yeah cos its not 'fashionable' to complain about that is it? i bet anything thing your a games freak arent you? (i fucking hate computer games) no doubt your a fucking student as well yes?

[DaGavinX]

@danspivey91 Now, if the issue is merely "bands want more money". That's really not anyone's problem. If I have a record and a friend asks me to borrow it to them I'm certainly not going to tell to go and buy it themselves.

Money, moves the world... and makes laws.

[DaGavinX]

@danspivey91 That's the pretty way of seeing it. What about people who a) can't afford the CD or quite frankly have other things more important to buy or b) wouldn't buy the record anyways? It's pretty unrealistic to think that everyone who file-shares would buy the music, so the bands wouldn't get anything from the them regardless. But it's also true, that not everyone who file-shares doesn't buy the music.

[danspivey91]

@DaGavinX but the thing is, you would have had alot of people who used to buy records, but now those same people will say "screw that i can get them for free now" there is no question the bands are missing out there. my main point isnt so much about physical record sales its about the artist missing out, which is what the whole file sharing debate is all about.

[DaGavinX]

@danspivey91 Yes, but record sales go down if people don't need to buy the records. So that would explain why record sales are not the same as before.

Bands make money from sales, touring, etc. You wouldn't expect them to keep making money from something they already sold, right?

[danspivey91]

@DaGavinX I know what you're trying to say but you're missing the point of what im saying a wee bit..... bands make money from itunes, im not talking about having to buy physical records, im all for any format whatsoever so long as the band make money from it, what im talking about is illegal downloading (or file sharing if you want to call it that) which the bands are missing out on making money from.

[DaGavinX]

@danspivey91 Well, I already said that. When you just buy the best songs of a record in iTunes, why would you want the whole thing? If you can download (legally, for the sake of argument), why go to store to buy the CD?

Anyways, so what if bands have to tour more? Certainly fans would like to see their favorite bands live more (I know I would).

It's a fact that record labels squeeze out every penny they can from artists, but that's because they're greedy bastards.

[danspivey91]

@DaGavinX chart and popular music has always been rubbish though, thats not a new thing, its not worse now than it ever was, and remember i included itunes in my point (legal downloads) I was watching an interview with Suede's bass player and he was saying when they started they made very good money from record sales, but new bands have to tour alot more than they did because

a) records dont sell as much (you can get them free now)

b) labels dont pay as good a royalty rate anymore

[DaGavinX]

@danspivey91 Very few people buy records now, at all. With programs like iTunes, for example. The mediocrity and the rising price of music also have to taken into account.

The real money for bands is in touring, record label pretty much squeeze all the money from records. Unless you're Lady Gaga and your records sell like hotcakes, there isn't much money for artists in records. So, touring more instead of putting crappy auto-tuned albums would be good idea for boosting sales.