How to Make a Compost Shower
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nice one. I've started a wikipedia article about Jean Pain if you could help :)
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He was talking about Jean Pain Les Terepliers who came up with the idea as well as numerous other green ideas that actually worked. if you g oogle JEAN PAIN COMPOSTING you will find his work.
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yessssss this is so great
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would copper pipe be more efficient than plastic ? or is there a problem with corrosion .. ?
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What works best, we have found, is to put only manure in the bucket on day 1, nest it in the compost pile and wait for first flammable gas. That means your methanogen population is working. Then open the bucket back up and put your compost in and seal. The compost has much higher energy value and will produce much more gas than the manure alone. But the best design is to have a feed in pipe so that each day you can add a little foodwaste; then you get continual biogas production for years.
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Great, inspirational work guys! re: the biogas, Hanna Fathy and I from Solar CITIES Egypt experimented with sealed compost to make methane and it does work but ONLY if you add methanogenic bacteria to the mix. That normally means putting animal dung in (cow or horse manure work great) on the first day. Then, yes, you have to wait for about 2 to 3 weeks (depending on temp, but your compost pile should be on the short end) for first flammable methane (it starts out as CO2 with H2S)
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:) i had one back in newzealand way long before 1980s they work well
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@Kittlionheart Do you not understand that this is not a proposition to heat all water in the world with compost? The idea is clearly to make a more friendly, small scale and efficiently heated water, not to return to the 16th century.
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I'm trying to find out the chemical composition of Polyethylene pipe (as used in this video and most other compost hot water systems), and whether any toxins are released at of near 60degC. When burned, PolyPipe (HDPE) released Hydrochloric acid gas. But so far nothing to say it does this at the relatively low temps of compost. I might need to take a trip to the local university.
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would it be difficult to get 50 tonnes of compost? seems pretty difficult unless you have like 50 acres.
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sorry - won't let urls post in replies... put it altogether for part 1 of Jean Pain's compost project... there is a part two as well
heated his house and ran his 4x4 (methane) for 18 mos with this one compost heap...
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@Kittlionheart you no not what you speak about...
search youtube for Jean Pain + compost and you can watch both videos where he produces enough methane to run his 4x4 on... so, it is not baseless... this guy admitted that he did not follow Jean's guidelines of letting the 'starter' compost for the methane reactor digest for two months before he put it in the reactor... this guy didn't pre-compost for any time... hence - no methane...
Sounds like a great idea, please visit the URL in the video description for more information. Good Luck!
permascience 3 years ago