cognitive linguistics vs. predicate logic

philosophy of cognition is more important than formal logic in this question because you have pressed logic into conclusions beyond the scope of its applicability. Logic, formal, takes principles and combines them into conclusions according to a formal system with particular characteristics and relations between the principles and conclusions. It does not define what is or is not a belief.

There can be a devout atheism which is a "belief"... akin to Satan Worship within Christianity... it adopts a belief system that it then opposes point for point.

Real atheism cannot be that... a type of theism, and is the rejection of a cognitive frame, specifically, the theistical frame... and is instead a word for eliminitating that frame.

When the frame is eliminated one is in need of a new worldview, "atheism" cannot be that worldview, because it is not a worldview, but the rejection of a worldview.

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[zeddicus12]

Are you a postmodernist? Cus you make no sense. And you talk just like one.

[pyrrho314]

@zeddicus12 : no I'm not. But of all my videos to reply with that, this makes the least sense. This is classical logic and cogsci... very materialist, nothing at all post modern about it except the death of metaphysics.

[suren1946]

Who is this dude...? Is he a linguist?

[pyrrho314]

@suren1946 : who me? no, but this vid is linguistics... check out "the embodied mind" and George Lakoff.

[findthe1]

To agree on defining X, by saying Y, but if we do not agree on defining Y, we attempt defining Z. and never come with the same definition on any variable.

Ask a man if wants a Dog (X). He says Yes (Y). I give him my X, but really his Y (Yes) means "I do not understand you" after seeing the dog he laughs (Z). I interpret his Z as he likes my X and that i have understand his Yes to be my same Y. But laughing (Z) is not what I think Z is, his Z communicates fear of allergies.

[pyrrho314]

yes, but what you describe is just like two people having different languages, except since they use the same phonic symbols, they think they have... it would become clear they were speaking a different language, and seek common expressions, relying if nothing else, on instinctual or obvious gestures.

[alexxy911]

@zeddicus12 LMAOO!!!! Was that a serious video? I really hope it wasn't

[sashajw1234]

So if i reject everything do I have an empty head? lol Obviously not.

Rejecting a 'frame' requires a reason, a position concerning that frame. Anytime we take up a position on a proposition, a belief is formed. Doesn't matter what the position is.

We don't do 'nothing' with information when asked to process it.

[ScottishProfessor]

Good point Cogito. This video is short but very interesting and thought provoking. Frames based on objective truth? Great vid.

[CogitoErgoCogitoSum]

Bigotry and animosity are the mentalities of those who define their beliefs and identify themselves with the negative argument to someone elses ideologies. That is what anti-theism (the rejection of theistic possibilities) is.

[findthe1]

right. and is it not theoretically possible that after making a dictionary of 9000 terms between the two languages, there yet exists a parallel where nothing is accurately understood; Translating ancient documents often has this limitation, for example trying to convey what "snow" is to someone born in the amazon jungle, so much is lost.