The 7 Characteristics of Hell (Based on Near Death Experiences)..
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@ddd7bbb you said you believe in buddihst and not christianty, but the bible has correctly predicted the future, wars,natural disasters,miracles, famines ,droughts, now what do you think
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@alyosha24601 There is such and such God because Bible says so, Bible is right because it says there that God says Bible is right. Whoever thinks differently is wrong on the basis of contradicting with Bible. When something seems fishy then we don't understand God's plan and should have trust, we should "have faith"..then it is said to be even more rewarded. It can work that way, but that can also work for whatever..be it Islam, Hinduism, Scientology, Communism. It's a closed circle.
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The idea that it is permanent seems questionable to me. Maybe, but, then there is no real learning experience in it...is there? You may say, well, the Bible teaches this though, so that is their warning...maybe...but, also for most of us these are just ideas and concepts with no real reality in them. Therefore, maybe some people require a taste of it...Theresa of Avila claimed to have experienced it directly in this way. Anyway, our everyday hells we create seem to be enough to correct us.
If God exist and is fair, he would not make people suffer infinite punishment for finite bad deeds. He would not reward them with infinite reward for finite good deeds. When you come to think about it, there are only 2 solutions in Christianity: absolute infinite best, or absolute infinite worst for all the ranges of humans. Thats why I believe in Buddhist teachings now..reward or punishment according to a deed,for some time until you pay back, without asking you to blindly trust some unseen God
ddd7bbb 3 months ago
@ddd7bbb Good point. The problem is that your frame of reference is "man centered". God's perspective is so much different. He does provide a plan for us, but it is HIS plan, HIS way of thinking, not ours. It's easy not to like it - most criminals don't like their judges! If you can sum up the courage to investigate HIS perspective (despite not liking it), it does make sense & is good. He will reveal himself when you are open to it. (I lived in a Buddhist country 9 years. It was oppressive!)
alyosha24601 3 months ago
I don't see a problem with Christ example, moral and love for all people. That's perfect, and that's what brings people to Christianity. Nor do I think there is anything wrong in following Christian teaching in leading yourself. But I don't see any good in trying to make people act certain way by scaring them(your left hand should not know what right does..), and opposing religions basically saying that you're safe as long as you're "a supporter of our football team"(church),and they all say it
ddd7bbb 3 months ago
@ddd7bbb This subject has a special interest for me because I became a Christian based on the fear of hell. At 12 I just wanted to know what happened to people when they die. I concluded hell was an option and sought God instead. That choice rescued my whole life. I see this subject as a good thing, not that it icites fear, but that it reveals danger. When the doctor tells you you'll die if you keep smoking, I see that as a good thing. God wants us to accept his plan and avoid this place. No?
alyosha24601 3 months ago
@ddd7bbb The biblical reasoning is different from our own because it is not based on "fairness", but rather "justice and mercy". According to the Bible, all are "bad". We like to compare ourselves with Hitler however, so we don't see ourselves this way. Hell results from the necessity of justice, not for finite deeds, but for what we ARE. BTW, I lived in a Buddhist country for nine years. I will say that westerners have an extremely "romantic" notion about "peaceful" Buddhism. I'm glad I'm back!
alyosha24601 2 months ago
The subject of hell lies at the very edge of our perception, and science can't get to it at all. Still, there are so many many anecdotal accounts occurring just at the moment of death, in addition to a few very detailed accounts from near death experiences. The biblical account matches these descriptions. I even have a friend whose cousin's father-in-law asked for his relatives to put out a "fire" in his hospital room that he saw the very moment he died! I believe hell is real; can't prove it!
alyosha24601 2 months ago