Schoenberg Piano Concerto op. 42 (3/3)

Movement 4

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• Schoenberg
• Schonberg
• concerto
• 12-tone
• dodecaphonic
• 1942
• piano
• serial
• contemporary
• new music.

[Klautenbogg]

@Camaysar22 , I had thought repeated notes were not allowed. Good to know they were.. Thanks for the info. After all, this 12 tone rule allowed more creativity than i thought..

[camaysar222]

@Klautenbogg Of course it goes without saying that each composer utilizes the 12-tone idea as he sees fit. The Piano Concerto is a late work, with repeats in the opening theme and elsewhere. Berg's Violin Concerto has famous repeats in the opening, not even stating the row in strict order (opening violin solo row notes: 1-3-5-7-7-5-3-1-1). As "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath", so the tone row was made for the composer!

[Klautenbogg]

@Ciaobebbo050: It's not quite a "twelve tone piece". In order to be so, they are not allowed to repeat the same notes before they exhausted all 12. Here he was repeating the same notes lot of times, almost obsessively. He was probably not yet decided which rules he wanted to use...

[camaysar222]

@Klautenbogg This work is indeed a twelve-tone work. Repeated notes from the row were "allowed".

[ciaobebbo050]

This is my first encounter with a twelve-tone piece...it blew me away, brilliant, very well played too

[camaysar222]

Glad you appreciate this masterpiece. For another, more "Romantic" example of a 12-tone concerto, try the Violin Concerto of Alban Berg (many recordings.. I like Joseph Szigeti). Enjoy your discoveries!

[NevinJarek]

@syaoranpies Give them more time, at first it feels awkward and weird, makes you uneasy at best, but with time you get used to it. Then you will get addicted to it.

[syaoranpies]

omg i hate 12 tone pieces....

[darnpenguin]

Thanks. That's actually just what I needed to round out my soundtrack. Most of Schoenberg's stuff seems really intense and dramatic. Webern's music seems to have a more subdued quality, perfect for those tense moments in quiet spaces, when you expect something to jump out at you at any moment.

[camaysar222]

Good choice lol. Don't forget Anton Webern. For example, his 5 Pieces for Orchestra, while not yet strict 12-tone, would fill your bill nicely.... especially the creepy part.