Dodge Viper vs Alpina B5 50-275 km/h = ALPINAboard.com

the alpina guy sure likes getting the jump on others. Still would have beaten the viper, but he sure likes to get going first. That race would have been much closer if they would have started even. How about the 3 honk rule.

The CTS is just a bit faster than M5, but in quality and ride has a big gap. The new porsche panamera could be the ugliest thing in the world, but for sure it its the best 4door saloon. I dont like the Viper, but that's taste, but i do realy like the ZR1, just because it is fast in straight line, but incredible also in the corners, with a proper manual gearbox, best car ever made in US along with the ford GT, congrats:)
BTW, SSC isn't the faster, its matched by 9ff GT9-R and beaten by brabus TKR

I'm not even sure if the 9ff GT9-R and the brabus TKR are actually production cars. Have they been officially sold yet? I've been looking for production information on these cars for the longest. But anyway, these cars might be faster than the world record breaking Ultimate Aero. But the new 09 Ultimate Aero has 1287 hp and still managed to keep its weight at roughly 2,750 lbs and is projected to reach 270mph.

they are both production, the GT9-R are productiong now to bustitute the GT9 "non R", and TKR is too a production car, but his top speed is not official, like the viper ACR nurburgring lap.

I like some american cars like the saleen, ford GT, and Vette ZR1, great cars, a shame that thos engines are so rude, they will be even better than they are with a lighter engines.
Those 3 american cars, keep going fast with simple mecanics and manual gearbox, and Im getting sold now for them over europeans

Lighter engines? lol Thats the most anti american thing there is. We just love the way our engines roar when you hit the gas. But the thing is we have learned how to make our car light even if the engine is big. Just look at our Mosler MT 900s, it weighs no more than 2,200 lbs, which is lighter than a McLaren F1.

You are missing the point because the Mosler roadcar is a homolgation car, that is why there only exist 3 of them, they were made just for homolgation. Its like being here with the Merc CLK-GTR road car, wich was a homolgation car for the race tracks. And look at the toyota GT-one road car,but you cant compare them.

That mosler, has 350hp, and 2,200ln. Imagin it now for example with a e46 M3 engine, you will get the same power with much less wight, so it will be faster, thats my point

I understand your point. But my point is that we know how to produce relatively light cars when we want without the need for a smaller engine. Too bad we dont always want to make light cars though.

well to be exact, the cts-v is a bit quicker, but the m-5 is definitely faster. it may be hard to find, but see if u can find a 0-top speed race, by 150mph the m-5 will start reeling that caddy in, but you must think well who will drive that fast. well i will and every single time, but thats besides the point. the caddy is quicker on lower speeds 0-130mph, but after that, the m-5 just begins to come alive

I saw a drag between both and it was pretty even, but maybe de CTS will be fastar around a lap, because in the end the CTS was made with the benchmark on the M5, so it shloud be a a bit faster. But you know, in the end i stay with the M5, the CTS can be very fast, but who cares, the M5 works like any other luxury saloon, much better build quality and materials, much more confortable. The CTS-V is very fast, but very hard and unconfortable, and in that way i prefer a real sports car

i agree