ABC`View`David Hyde Pierce On His Marriage, Prop 8 Anger (p2)
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As long as they are happy who cares. Live & let live.
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David is right, its none of their business. Its amazing to me that the Republicans keep on harping on getting government out of our lives, yet they have no problem telling us who we can marry. I am a straight male and I could care less if a man marries a woman, a man marries a man or a woman marries a woman, as long as they are adults it does not effect my life.
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@bhriguaneja I'm straight btw
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Who the fuck is someone to tell me what to or not to do unless it effects them directly...Prop 8 makes me so so mad and defines why democracy is bullshit.
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I'm religious, I'm gay, and my church welcomes me and would happily marry me if my state would allow it.
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@Kaalec It depends where you live in the country. Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts all allow gays to get married. The issue with the separation is more of a people issue. We have a ton of religious folks who have their religious values. They vote accordingly. You end up with leaders in the government who can't separate their value system from human rights. Things are changing slowly. There are a lot more relaxed people in my generation than my father's. Ten years should do it.
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@TriumphT140 Your constitution says there's a separation of church and state, but there is clearly no separation of politics and religion in your country. Your candidates fall over each other trying to out-church each other. In practice, your country doesn't do enough to separate church and state. People are free to believe in whatever they want, but they don't have the right to use it as a basis for national public policy.
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@TriumphT140 To finish that thought for many of us its not about the rings or the ceremony. Its about the same legal rights that straight couples are entitled to. "Liberty and Justice for All" Except the gays. People can legally call me an abomination - I don't care, maybe I am in the eyes of God. But the Church legally doesn't make decisions in this country, my being an abomination (which I'm not) isn't a recognizable argument against Gays having the right to legally have a civil union.
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We have a separation of Church and State. So that should cut all the religion arguments out. Gays should be allowed Civil Unions/Marriage in all 50 states. Gay couples who would be married if they could be don't get the tax breaks, they don't have any legal right to make decisions for their partner in an emergency... So lets say Bob and Ted have lived together 15 years and Ted gets in a car crash. Bob has no legal base to make sure Ted's wishes are listened to. A Doctor can have Bob removed.
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Bravo.
David Hyde Pierce is absolutely right. I really feel terrible that some people are denied the right to marry the one they love. It's annoying that people with no experience as a homosexual man or woman feel that they have the correct understanding personally to oppose it. It's like they think that allowing it will make them gay or lesbian. I'm sure it will not negatively effect anyone expect those who can't stand the happiness of others.
s004237 2 years ago 77
I can't beleive after 25years together they dont' have the right to be married... it's insanity. David is absoultely right...and I agree completely about a person's choice wether or not you talk about anything about yourself is totally your business.
Emeraldgreen501 2 years ago 14