Sabre Point in Lines and Set Ups

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This is a compilation video of the point in lines and actions that can be set up with them. Featured in this video are James Williams USA, Nicolas Lopez FRA, Diego Occhiuzzi ITA, Aldo Montano ITA, Tamas Decsi HUN, Aliaksandr Buikevich BLR, and Jason Rogers USA. The fist song is "Spirit of Radio" by Rush, the second song is "Dreamin of You" by the Coral, and the third song is "Jerk it Out" by the Caesars.

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[kevinthemathgeek]

I use the line as a part of my fencing and I've heard mixed messages about its usage. I try to use the line to bait my opponent to beat on their attack (they must beat the blade before they attack right?). I then take advantage of my fast hands and pull my blade away and make an attack. If they don't hit my blade in their attempt at a beat, they lose right of way and give me the attack right? I've been very confused with this. Love the videos by the way. Keep it up.

[CyrusofChaos]

@kevinthemathgeek depends on how they search: if it is a little search and you keep your forward movement i would say that you do not lose right of way when searching for line. on the other hand, if you do a gigantic search, like in the clip of szilagyi and decsi i would say you do lose right of way if your opponent attacks at that moment, although i am not entirely sure i have footage of an example of that because it rarely happens at a high level

[scont35]

Excellent, excellent discussion of tactics. Thank you for posting this. I was so struck with how content-rich this video is I had to pause a moment and give kudos. Nice work!

[kevinthemathgeek]

@CyrusofChaos thanks for the clarification. if you're on the offense and your opponent uses a line on the retreat, you must beat the blade before you attack right? because if you don't and it's a double-light it's the other person's point. I fence at a high-school level and nobody seems sure what the rules are. lol

[hokers99]

More good points here:

1. The line itself is very rarely what gets the hit, usually it's setting something else up

2. If the president EVER gives PIL against you, call for a replay (if available), being perfectly correct seems very difficult on slow motion. If you don't then change it up.

Good video.

[CyrusofChaos]

under a strict *and correct* interpretation of the rules you are correct. however sabre is not that cut and dry: these actions are essentially line, even if the arm is not extended correctly and the point is not kept on the target the entire time. it matters more what your opponent is doing. point is called very, very loosely these days

[Herculesepee]

I might be wrong but i think the arm has to be extended and the point remaining threating to target to count as PIL

[bboyvc]

in the first clip, his entire arm is moving/circling and isn't line supposed to be straight arm the whole time?

[CyrusofChaos]

well if you happen to find it somewhere please let me know, i am very interested in seeing whatever you can find

[epeemstr316]

unfortunately no. i've just spent the last half hour looking for it. unless you want to buy the dvd to the 04 olympics. but that bout was so crazy, aldo literally flipped on the strip when he won lol