Thoughts On Christmas

There is no such thing as pure culture.

Saturnalia
http://www.history.com/content/christmas/the-real-story-of-christmas/saturnalia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia

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[JAKEV25]

WAYMAN..I am surprized. You evidently know all the paganism involved in christmas and a christmas tree and the star on top but it doesn't make you stop to consider that perhaps you are insulting your creator?

Remember when the Isrealites were waiting for Moses to come down from Sinai? They made a graven image and called this YHWH. How did YHWH feel about this? Was he pleased? Is what you do much different then what they did?

Do you also discount the advice of Jeremiah 10: 2-4?

[wayman29]

I believe some would say you yourself are doing the same by fully pronouncing the creators name. I am agnostic and not a part of any belief system.

[jedimasterbooboo]

There's no such thing as pure food, but I don't stick my face in the toilet and call it macaroni. People are SUCH hypocrites this time of year. but Xmas is mostly a secular holiday now, so people without faith don't have to feel hypocritical. But real Christianity is separate from culture. I *know* you can't do that completely, but see opening line.

[wayman29]

-but I don't stick my face in the toilet and call it macaroni- If you didn't know the difference you just might. And with a few bible verses to justify toilet water as holy water people label and eat some interesting things. I have seen the videos. ;0)

[Hermetiqa]

Jeremiah 10:2 - Lev 18:3 - 20:23 - Deut 12:30

Jeremiah 10:3 - Jer 14:22

Jeremiah 10:3 - Is 44:9-20

Jeremiah 10:4 - Is 40:19

Jeremiah 10:4 - Is 40:20 - 41:7

[williamskidfears]

@jedimasterbooboo Your dogma used the Christmas hypocrisy to sell your faith for the last 2,010 years, and now, when it's inconvenient, you deny it, same as you deny the Salem witch trials, the Inquosition, the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and everything else inconvienient by saying the magic words,"those weren't really Christians who did that."

[williamskidfears]

@JAKEV25 Your religion(and it doesn't matter which brand of Christianity you are because it all came from the same place) stole this holiday from the Druids to con people into accepting your dogma, and you have continued to coat tail your Christ born in a manger story onto this for over 2,000 years.

It's far, far too late to repudiate it all now, when it has done such a workmanlike job of promoting the religion which stole it.

[JAKEV25]

They would be wrong to say such.  In any event I thought you were a Christian...My bad.

[princessannikki]

No it's a different book, wait I'll look it up.... The Stations of the Sun: A History of the Ritual Year in Britain, (1996), ISBN 0-19-285448-8

[princessannikki]

I think your thinking of the Wiccan Wheel of the Year. The Celts had four main festivals, those were the Feast of the Dead at Samhain, Brigantia/Imbolc in February, Beltaine in May and Lughnasadh in August.

Oh also read Hutton's Stations of the Sun I think it's called.

[princessannikki]

Ostara is not a Celtic festival. Ostara is the Old German for April/Easter.

[princessannikki]

See Triumph of the Moon by Prof Ronald Hutton and Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe by H R Ellis Davidson. There were seasonal celebrations, sure, but no autumn equinox recorded.

[princessannikki]

a) Beltaine is the name for the lunar month of May. b) Mabon is a name that was invented by neo-Druids for a non-historical equinox celebration.