Christ Myth pt. two

"A study on the History of the Dying and Resurrecting God"

part one can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EYm8lj-9zw


The term "Christ Myth" covers a broad range of ideas, but most share the common premise that the narrative of the Gospels portrays a figure who never actually lived. Current theories arose from nineteenth century scholarship on the formation of myth, in the work of writers such as Max Müller (1823 -- 1900) and James Frazer (1854 - 1941).

Müller argued that religions originated in mythic stories of the birth, death, and rebirth of the sun.

Frazer further attempted to explain the origins of humanity's mythic beliefs in the idea of a "sacrificial king", associated with the sun as a dying and reviving god and its connection to the regeneration of the earth in springtime.

In 1909, an influential book on the subject titled simply "The Christ Myth" was written by German philosopher Arthur Drews (1865 - 1935)

The British philosopher Bertrand Russel (1872 -- 1970) stated in his essay "Why I Am Not a Christian" (1927), that even if Jesus existed, which he doubted, the public does not "know anything" about him.

Most recently Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy have popularized the Jesus-myth concept in their book The Jesus Mysteries. Also recent is Earl Doherty's "Jesus Puzzle" (1999) and "The Pagan Christ" (2004) by Canadian theologian Tom Harpur (b. 1929).


Christos Mythos

"...since the Divine is beyond our ability to comprehend, the religions of the world (ancient and modern) have envisioned some 'being' who is a part of both the Earthly world and the Divine world who brings us some knowledge from the Divine world.

In Greece, this being has been called "Prometheus" who brought us fire from Mt. Olympus, or "Dionysus" who brought us Wine from the Gods. In Hermetic religion, he was called "Hermes Trismegistus", who brought us wisdom from the Heavens. In Egypt, he was Osiris, who eternally fought the forces of darkness in order to bring light to the world. In the myths of the world, this 'intermediary' appears always as a God of light, life and enlightenment.

For those of you reading this who lean toward following a particular religion, this symbol may (for you) be called "Christ", "Buddha" or "Krishna". In ancient times, he was called by many names... Osiris, Mithra, Dionysus, Hermes.... the names are many. The idea is the same."

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I have been asked by many to cite my sources. My response to that request is this:

The sources are honestly too numerous to list. I have honestly been studying ancient religions for more than a decade, and I have a bookcase full of notebooks where I DID diligently cite everything, but I don't have the time to type them all, there are far too many...

Prior to the youtube video, I had built an extremely indepth website (far more indepth than a 20 minute youtube video). The youtube video is an extremely condensed version. Tremendous amounts of information were left out due to time constraints. I tell you this to help illustrate that my sources TRULY are too numerous to mention. I wish I had a list to give you, but I don't.

All I can tell you off the top of my head, is to read anything by:

E.A. Wallis Budge (Not a comparative mythologist, but a very thorough Egyptologist. His translation of the Egyptian "Book of the Dead" contains a wealth of information regarding Osiris and Horus and their role as the dying and rising sun) ,

James George Frazer (The "father" of modern anthropology. His "Golden Bough" has been very influential. It shows similarites between Christ, Tammus, Attis, Dionysus and Dumuzi in particular.),

Manly P. Hall (Freemasonry historian, his book "The Secret Teaching of All Ages" was quite enlightening),

Aleister Crowley(Occultist and certified wacko, but also highly educated and knowledgable on the subject of symbolism. "777 and other Kabbalistic Writings" is his ultimate collection of religious symbols from around the world. A very good source of information),

Joseph Campbell (also well-versed in symbolism, and someone who devoted his life to comparative mythology. "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" is probably his most well-known work, but his "Masks of God: Occidental Mythology" was quite useful to me as well)

"Akhenaten and the Religion of Light" by Erik Hornung is fascinating, and contains the Egyptian "Great Hymn to the Aten", which I found to be quite beautiful. The religion of Akhenaten is the world's first Monotheism, which in my opinion, evolved over time to become Judaism, and is therefore an important subject to study.

I hope this response is the type of response that you were looking for.

One Love,
Max

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[mikecorbeil]

Differences between the various religious beliefs described in the video, but without including the differences, are lacking in the video. There certainly are some and to look at only similarities, which the video doesn't do thoroughly well, certainly not analytically anyway, while dismissing the differences is to perform very incomplete analysis. It doesn't qualify for analysis using the scientific method. Enough can be said in critiquing the video and the books, but Youtube is not the place.

[MaxReboMystic]

@mikecorbeil

Indeed. Youtube is NOT the place. I would love to make a much longer video, but where would I host it?

[lustacapulco]

Ishtar=easter is ok for english, but i would like to know the translation to latin, because in spanish is Pascua, and i find hard to relate that secuence considering that catholic church was at first latin.

[MaxReboMystic]

'Pascua' is from the Hebrew "Pesach", which means "he passed over", referring to God's constant passing over (and guarding) of the Jewish people.

In the United States, we call the time before the resurrection of Christ "Passover", and the time after the resurrection we call "Easter".

[ludachris475]

People just can't accept that Jesus Christ is the Sun; perhaps they are still in pathological self denial and can't reconcile the fact that they've based their entire lives on something so stupid.

The story is not to be taken literally at all. Only if it is taken literally can the the church control and enslave you. And for the greater glory of men.

[Mealtime004]

Come one!  Where's part three?

[abby495]

What a great presentation great in content and stimulating visually. Yes it is true :-x.

[WhereWeComeFrom]

who benefitted from this myth/?

[WhereWeComeFrom]

can someone please tell me the moral of this story?

[indoaria]

@RealPinkDreams oh dear...I am angered when my faith is attacked and proven wrong so I will attack the next nearest faith which just happens to be in the spotlight and hopefully win some points with the masses...thats you I'm talking about..yes you!!

[indoaria]

Excellent video series! Thanks!! I wish this had been shown to us at school.  would they show stuff like this today? I doubt it! Its the lies that help to control and manipulate the masses.

Apparently there is a guide to uploading videos longer than 10 mins on youtube by request...I have been told its a long read but worth it and of course it is like that to keep the unintelligent hype from clogging up the site...morons rarely have the brain cells to read manuals longer than a nursery rhyme.

[mikecorbeil]

@MaxReboMystic Where to host a complete video, you ask. Well, I've been finding full documentary videos at Youtube, as of recently anyway, but maybe this requires some sort of special agreement between the Youtube channel user or owner and Youtube management. There're Google, Vimeo, and other video websites, and I recently read that Google has stopped accepting new videos, but perhaps some of the other webistes would accept a complete video from you; as single or multiple clips.

[RealPinkDreams]

FIRST OF ALL:: jesus and moses didnt hurts the great civilizations of the mid east and the eastern part of the mediterranean like what that fake prophet ( MOH..) did through his mercenaries after him .

[mikecorbeil]

I don't know how long the more thorough video you have in mind is, but from what I've seen and believe to have read, Google accepts much longer videos than normally found at Youtube. There evidently are occasional excepts made at Youtube, for I just came across a NewAmericanFoundation video yesterday one is a single clip of a little over one hour and 28 minutes. I recently read in some user post(s?) at Youtube that the site doesn't accept clips over 12 to15 minutes, but I've seen longer.