An open letter and challenge to Thunderf00t

Please feel free to mirror. Many of you already know this, though.

RationalRoundtable: http://www.youtube.com/user/RationalRoundtable

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• Christianity
• atheism
• rationalism
• logic
• Christian
• Jesus
• Muslim
• islam

[MrSchpankme]

Your a believer but also a rationalist; can one man be a little bit pregnant? Beam me up Scotty!

[HonestDiscussioner]

@MrSchpankme This was a mirror, you want RationalRoundtable, not I. I"m an atheist.

And people can be rational and yet incorrect.

[yunged]

Mate you are possibly worse then the idiots you bash Thunderfoot for taking on, you (at least claim to) have scientific knowledge and understand the scientific method, hold your views up to reason, and appreciate the value of logic and yet you parrot the faith based views of the society you happened to grow up in, i have little respect for that position

[HonestDiscussioner]

@yunged I think before you judge RationalRoundtable you should actually try to understand his position, not assume it and then bash it.

[TruthNotReligion]

That guy says he's a rationalist believer. That's impossible because there is no RATIONAL reason to believe in god. Sorry.

[bary1234]

So you must have supers cherry-picking skills. You are a christian. Yet you accept big bang, evolution, and prayer being useless waste of time.There is no satan tempting and luring us. There was no creation, no garden of eden, no biblical flood. You know jesus was not born out of a virgin, and did none of the claimed "miracles", and was not risen from the dead with hundreds of other people. There is no rapture coming, no heaven or hell.

What is left, how can you still say you are a christian?

[HonestDiscussioner]

@yakult244 First off I'm not RationalRoundtable. I'm HonestDiscussioner (atheist).

Secondly, are you REALLY going to use that argument right when nearly the entire youtube atheist community is arguing over what it means to be an atheist?

Third, you don't have to go around and disprove every single other belief system in order to posit your own. There are millions of Christians who are both decent intelligent people, but TF gives all his time to awful people like NephilimFree. He can do better.

[HonestDiscussioner]

@yakult244 "so many interpenetrate it so differently, w\no reason to legitimize one over the other, makes them all subject to interpretation, and therefore imaginary"

I'd agree that there are so many different ways to interpret the bible, & I'd also agree that such things causes a variety of theological problems, but by itself it does not disprove the bible, or make its adherents fools. All literary interpretation is subjective, that does not mean the author didn't have a specific view in mind.

[HonestDiscussioner]

@yakult244 "How is it that they got it wrong?"

Because for many people faith is an emotional position, and they use their intellect to try to justify their emotional attachment to their faith. Everyone does it . . . confirmation bias is a bitch.

Your position is that there is only one way to honestly interpret it, and that's clearly false. That doesn't mean that everyone should get the interpretation correct, it means exactly the opposite.

[HonestDiscussioner]

@yunged You do know the oldest version of what we now know of as the Old Testament point blank says in the first line it's not meant to be taken literally, right?

[gargamel6699]

This is where many ppl miss the point. 'TF doesn't bash xians in general. He DESTROYS militant xians. If you are xian and you keep to yourself, good for you. But if you are a "crazy xian" that wants to step on others, that's where atheists like TF start posting.

[calmreason]

Naaaa