A Thief in The Night - Part 2

They said theyd disappear
They did
They said they would be persecuted
They were
They said they would be hunted

But Patti didnt believe,
And now shes been Left Behind

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[rcguy69]

An lo' God sacrificed himself to himself to fix the mess he created for himself in the first place.

[Discern4]

1:25 "You gave Your life for me"

Well not really. Jesus just came back to life again and now he's sitting at the right hand of the Father. It's hard to be grateful for a sacrifice from a God that can't die. If our punishment is eternity in hell, shouldn't Jesus be in hell for eternity if He actually took our place?

[caessarion]

anti christ is anti truth, MOST people are anti truth

[TheBookWorm1718]

@mcalsip But I'll tell you something, whenever I do try to help people I never think about how this pans out in terms of the idea of doing good works through God. But I also remember what the Bible says about when you do good, do not boast about it, and it's not just what you do but what you put into it as well, like when everybody put a lot of money in the box for the temple and one woman gave the equivalence of 2 cents, Jesus said her contribution meant more because it was all she had

[TheBookWorm1718]

@mcalsip Yes and the Bible says that you do not enter Heaven through acts of good deeds but rather to do good work through God. That's what some people try to do. Like when Jesus said anything you do for others, you do for Him, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, tending to the sick, visiting the imprisoned, etc. and to those that do not they will be told that they did NOT do for others or for Him. Personally, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that one. Cont...

[mcalsip]

@TheBookWorm1718 As a former Christian I know full well what is means to be Christian and how Christians like to act. By your fruit you shall be judged, is the standard. Christians and religious people as a whole contribute to society and are what make up the diversity we see everyday. However, these people's tangible contributions are what make society better, not clinging to myths and declaring allegiance to imaginary friends. Good people do good works, god or no god.

[TheBookWorm1718]

@mcalsip That may be but being Christian don't mean being perfect either. And that's the idea, if everybody could just stop sinning and be perfect, we wouldn't have needed Jesus to die for us, but we can't and He did. Humans are infallible, that's just common sense. And it sounds to me like you have a very sheltered, narrow minded view of how people who believe in God act. Believing in God means nobody does anything, nothing gets done? In what reality?

[mcalsip]

@TheBookWorm1718 I am pretty sure it is a Christian requirement to love even your enemy. I think that the problem with the world is theist attitudes that it is ok if they do things the wrong way because god will just fix everything for them. John Lennon asked us to imagine a world with no heaven. Maybe if more people took responsibility for the world we wouldn't need to subscribe to fantasies of a magic genie fixing everything for us

[TheBookWorm1718]

@mcalsip The truth can be devastating. Why do you think so many people have so little hope for humanity? Because everybody is so great? It's not even a matter of being morally good, a lot of people in the world are totally rotten human beings. And we don't have to like them, but God loves everybody, including the people nobody wants to even look at. God's perfect, people are not, it's that simple, and most people if you ask would NOT trade places with Jesus being tortured and killed.

[mcalsip]

@TheBookWorm1718 Is that the famous christian love I keep hearing about? Most people are ungrateful pieces of crap? Judge not lest ye be judged indeed.

[TheBookWorm1718]

@mcalsip You're the one that said most rational people would let themselves be tortured and then be dead for 3 days, no problem, it's no sacrifice, but then it turns out 'most rational people' aren't what you think they are. That's why the sacrifice was so great because most people Jesus died for are just a bunch of ungrateful pieces of crap who will never acknowledge what was done for them, and most people are NOT going to die for people like that, but He did.

[mcalsip]

@TheBookWorm1718 I see that your point is valid, Jesus simply is not of high enough character to just sacrifice himself willingly. Rather, as you have helped to logically determine he is of the caliber of average people who would not. Perhaps, after he got to earth as a man he wanted to back out of the deal but was powerless to keep god from forcing him to do it anyway. After all, is there any scripture of him repenting of that prayer and being ready to die again willingly?