Palestinians despondent as Israeli polls near - 16 Sep 08

In Israel, Ehud Olmert, the prime minister, has been speaking of the need for a peace agreement with the Palestinians by the end of the year.

But he is due to step down as prime minister as his Kadima party prepares for a leadership vote on Wednesday.

The Palestinians main fear is that whoever wins will maintain the status quo: a military occupation consisting of checkpoints, walls, and settlement expansion.

Al Jazeera's Nour Odeh reports.

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[scoobyDx]

i'm just saying. Texas was seized through force of arms during a war. Exactly what your example was - a war against mexico to enlarge boarders.

[DogEditus]

The USA wasn't mass murdering the natives of North America at the same time?

[scoobyDx]

"If the USA decides to fight a war with Mexico, against international laws, to occupy the country and increase their borders"

texas seems pretty legitimate to me.

[youstupidwoman]

so if the bible is wrong,what do you basics and meaning of being jewish,and claim for that area,the country of which they occupied for 3 to 5 hundred years,out of a history of 10000 years,your argument is floored,only standing up any in a corrupt environment,

there is only one fact we know,the jewish prevision of truth,only set a president for that same thing to continue for ever,dragging the European in to there bloody conflict of greed while the criminals sit in the usa.

[Goohuman]

Pardon my delay. Gotta work yano.

The UN voted to give the Jews back Israel. This was not something the Palestinians wanted, agreed, but they were provided for.

The Palestinians were the ones that defied the UN resolutions. They came after the Jews to kill them and haven't stopped yet.

The only ethnic group that 1) had a country, 2) asked for a country, 3) was nearly exterminated by the Nazis 4) everyone agreed should all live somewhere together so they could defend their own, was the Jews.

[DogEditus]

If the USA decides to fight a war with Mexico, against international laws, to occupy the country and increase their borders... you will consider that claim legitimate?

According to international law, the full occupation of Palestine, the settlements and the increased borders of Israel are all illegal and illigitimate.

Palestinians leaders have accepted the old UN drafted borders, many times, and Israel ignored that. And such resolution is the only thing that gaves Israel any right to exist.

[DogEditus]

That's not what I mean, the next question is, Why the jews deserved their own nation beyond all ethnic and religious groups that face persecution all over the world?

And why a religious group hasd the right over some piece of land in which only a fraction of such group lives (with no ethnical conectionn) while the majority of the people in that land were arab muslims? Why did the jews deserved that piece of land?

[Goohuman]

Then there was war in 1967 (fact). Palestine lost (fact). Israel won (fact). Borders changed (fact). UN resolutions about old borders no longer valid (fact) as long as Palestine fights, they are still at war (fact).

Why do I even have to explain this? Are people that confused that they don't understand that an agreement is only valid as long as both parties respect it? Palestine did not respect it and they lost. UN resolution is invalid by their own hand.

[Goohuman]

Gypsies?! Are you kidding?! The Gypsies never had a country. They generally don't care for laws and are still nomadic to a degree. Ask a Gypsie why they didn't ask for a piece of Germany after WWII. They didn't contribute to the war effort as a nation. I'm sure there were Gypsy fighters, but not many.

Ask the Gypsies why they are happy without a country of thier own.

Gypsies. HA! Did some college professor ask you this? LOL.

[DogEditus]

The nazis massacred gypsies too, were is the zionist gypsie state. Why didn't the british gave that ethnical group, that is still persecuted in Europe, some land to form their own nation?