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Elaine Bernard: Anti-union laws made it harder to organize Pt1

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[nktank84]

@Huboons It's owned by its investors, NOT OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT. In your efforts to bash unions you make many claims, assumtions and false accusations. The most outlandish/foolish is that only government hires union labor because of our gross laziness blah blah blah. But then why do we work in Mid America Power Plants in Iowa? Warren Buffet Owns Mid America by the way. Why is an energy company that tried nonunion labor using union labor now if union labor is so frickin lazy?

[Huboons]

@nktank84 "WESTAR ENERGY IS NOT A PUBLIC UTILITY"  yes it is.

[nktank84]

@Huboons Oh so since I'm union I'm now comitting threatening acts? You must be desperate for a good arguement now. You are clearly reaching for more and more outlandish claims and assumtions.WESTAR ENERGY IS NOT A PUBLIC UTILITY, MOST PLANTS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED THESE DAYS. Selling electricity is very prifitable these days. Westar tried nonunion Boilermakers, and came back to us/union labor. WHATS YOUR ANSWER FOR THAT?

[Huboons]

@nktank84 "Nobody ever had to threaten me to give me a job paying more with good benefits" Uh, no. You're the one doing the threatening if they don't. Secondly, that company is a public utility, in other words, government controlled numb-nuts. I can see why threats of violence are your only means of earning a living, you don't have much going on upstairs. Well, I mean you use your hands rather than your mind to earn a living. That about says it all.

[nktank84]

@Huboons Nobody ever had to threaten me to give me a job paying more with good benefits. Of course they must be government contracts because union craftsmen could never compete with nonunion eh? WRONG! Actually at St. Mary's KS Westar Energy has 3 big units, they had nonunion build a baghouse a couple years ago, then last year they had us build a baghouse at another one of there plants, and now they got union boilermakers building a baghouse at St. Mary's. How do you explain that?

[Huboons]

@nktank84 Well besides my own experiences of being threatened, since 1975, the National Institute for Labor Relations Research has collected more than 9,000 reports of union violence. "We won a bunch of work this year" Hardly. You got those jobs due to the ideology of the people approving the contracts and the fact that they were no doubt government contracts where the people spending the money don't have to earn it. Just the opposite of the free market.

[tehatemachine]

@nktank84 Hes a pipe insulator. Forgot hat union he's in, I'm in a union to but i work in a grocery warehouse store. Really the workers aren't to blame though in these situations. I see views from both sides.

[nktank84]

I don't see how anybody can claim that the unions are the thugs. The Pinkertons were literally thugs hired to beat down union workers that at one time outnumbered the US army. The Homestead Strike is a perfect example, Carnegie was the richest man in the world making record profits, and what does his chairman do? He wants wage cuts, after the workers already suffered recent wage cuts. Hw=e destroys the union cuts wages and goes from 8 to 12 hour shifts. Yea who needs union eh?

[nktank84]

@tehatemachine What trade is your dad in? He's right, boilermakers are a different breed altogether. It takes a different kind of man to travel like we do. Most are not faithfulnbut I am trying hard, I love my wife and would hate to lose her. Took me forever to find a woman who could saddle her own damn horse.lol.

[nktank84]

@Allante715 Ye my dad and gandpa were a Union miners who had to fight for a mere 50 cent raise against a companies that were making record profits. GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON A COMPANY THAT WAS MAKING RECORD PROFITS SHOULDN'T GIVE ITS EMPLOYEES A 50 CENT RAISE. I just don't buy the idea that merely saying "free market" entitles companies to treat employees like dirt. Blue collar people are people too. Do you not have a moral compass in your heart?