Pierre Boulez - Le soleil des eaux
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If you love music as I do, you would venture to attempt investigation into this music, even if it displeases you.
If you do not love music as I do, all the same, then. Go about your business, but leave these professionals alone, isolate them from the ignorance you allow yourself.
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boulez is a big shit ! steevie wonder
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classical music is shit nowadays
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I came here to listen to a great 20th century composer performed by a world-class orchestra, and got distracted by these awful discussions. Please, just listen and enjoy. If you can't enjoy it...try something else.
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This sullen old twerp will never go down with Liszt and Chopin. you can be sure of that. he only obtained fame by his bullying tactics and "look at me" antics (outrageous comments, etc.) the 1950s to the present day will be seen as the era of pretentious clowns (him and cockhausen especially) and laughed at. even today people laugh. people in the classical music scene are just waiting for this old cocksucker to die so they can celebrate his death, and at 85, it won't be long now.
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@Uberloinvongenchler I regret if my comment wasn't that accurate. I didn't mean to compare beauty and newness, since beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it can be produced from anything , including but not limited to the experimentation.
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@skywalkeridrg You seem to be confusing a respect for the ingenuity of a composition with the emotional reponse it generates in a listener: music is not beautiful because it is new; newness does not confer beauty of itself, although that which is new may well be beautiful. Also, I wouldn't be so quick to assume I understood another person's motivations. However, I should think Boulez spent years working on his music because that's what he liked doing, not primarily to please others.
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It is always curious to see how much anguish there is on youtube by the detractors and supporters of a piece of music. A lot of contemporary music seems to elicit feelings of uncertainty about whether the art they have just encountered is in fact "music". Conversely, no such qualms typically arise over pre-20th century musical art: there are merely disputes about the legitimacy of a hierarchy of taste and of what standing a piece is in relation to it.
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@amorpaz1 And you objectively enjoy sucking cock. Bravo.
@amorpaz1 That's another incredible assumption. It annoys people to death when somebody claims to somebody that because they themselves can't conceive how somebody can like something, since you like it, therefore you're 'lying." Believe me, people - including myself - actually ENJOY this. Not just find it "intellectually stimulating" or "ripe for conceptual and philosophical analysis," but beautiful, exhilarating, and ENJOYABLE. For the last time: all art is subjective.
ArtD42 1 year ago 5
The music is beautiful, especially the soprano. Do not respond aggressively to the ones that don't like this piece, thiere is no sense in this action.
LesbianStraightGay 6 months ago 3