Force-on-Force Steel Shooting - Pistols

Force-on-force steel shooting on the last day of the Front Sight 4-Day Defensive Handgun course. Students are picked at random to engage three targets in a race for time and accuracy: one hostage taker (over the right shoulder of the close target) and two hostiles (the far targets).

Attendees that hit the hostage are admitted to the Special Hostage Interdiction Team!

Oct. 3-6, 2008, Range 1E, Front Sight Pahrump, NV.

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[TimeForGoodCleanFun]

like i said, there's a lesson in it: training can easily go out the window in any vaguely stressful situation. ultimately, the steps don't matter in the real world: is the target down, am i safe? dropping 3 targets in 4 seconds with a .45 would be pretty effective. i think my shooting speaks for itself, and the instructors thought so, as well.

oh, and since you're 14 i'll give you a tip: pre-emptively telling people to not argue with you is a sure way to look like a massive douche.

[MrRott01]

I thought "force on force" involved someone shooting back at you (paint ball, wax bullets, whatever)

I didn't think shooting at steel was force on force?

[TimeForGoodCleanFun]

@MrRott01 yeah, that's usually what i take it to mean, too. FS does do Simunition force-on-force for the advanced classes.

i think they called it that because it was two people competing with identical targets, thus shooting against one another.

[booya155]

Why do you return to step 3 in your presentation before going into your after action drills instead of just going down to the ready? Seems like an unnecessary extra step...

[TimeForGoodCleanFun]

@booya155 you know... that's a very good question. i'm not really sure! it wasn't something i was consciously doing, i just felt like i wanted to pause before after-action. weapon retention? not sure.

so i guess there's a lesson: you can spend three days learning a skill but in something approaching a stressful shooting you may find yourself doing other things without thought. practice, practice, practice.

[x3mj]

What's up with the tight shirt? I should be that proud of my love handles. Just kidding. Little slow but they will get there and lets not shoot the hostage next time. Good work overall gentlemen.

[TimeForGoodCleanFun]

@x3mj lol thanks - i actually had left my overshirt at the hotel that day. i was using a fleece for concealment drills but, damn, got too hot after a while.

sometimes i still wonder if i'm actually faster WITH a concealment garment... a sufficiently fast flip-open places my hand perfectly above the holster.

[frontsightDG]

But you also can improve if you ever go to an advanced tactical go during either the summer or the winter because only the dedicated will go because I had recently often back from one and we didn't do simulations or anything only two but at our range and they didn't have their "A" squad cuz of Easter just a piece of info don't want anyone elses experience to turn out as a waste of time like ours

[frontsightDG]

I would own you in a gunfight

[frontsightDG]

Hahaha this is bad but i mean ur in a four day so I can understand. Don't go to step three everytime and actually look with the quick checks. Don't try and argue about this comment please I know what I'm talking about I've been to frontsight 2 times first was a four day I DGed and this past weekend was a advanced tactical and I'm only 14 yrs old

[Glockcrazy19]

@MrRott01 lol i wanna see you go out and volunteer to be hit by wax bullets.