I used to be a Christian! (No True Scotsman)
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@XXXFirebird76XXX PS Be sure to send Dawkins a "thank you" card and invite him to speak to your congregation. If he can't make it, perhaps you could give "the Atheist Experience" or James Randi a call.
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@XXXFirebird76XXX As far as I'm concerned, your religion is one of the single worst things to happen to my people so I assure you, there's no struggle. If Jehovah was real, he'd be the single most evil tyrant in all of history (ultimately,trumping even Satan) so I'm in no way shape or form dissappointed to know that he's no different from Zeus. Knowing that the majority of mankind isn't going to hell forever does not keep me awake at night.
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@XXXFirebird76XXX "Well, God did mention additional light source. He was the light source." Oh, okay. And where exactly in Genesis 1 did Yahweh mention that? "Since you struggle with believing a creationist view of the world, which is understandable, I would move on to looking at the allegorical interpretations". What struggle? The only evidence that the bible wasn't meant to be taken literally is the FACT that it's easily proven wrong when it is.
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@Boxcutter7 I guess one answer could be because he didn't plan on continuing to be a physical light source in such a way. Of course, that would only be the case if the story of the creation is to be taken literally, which I don't think it is.
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@XXXFirebird76XXX Why would god create the sun & stars if there was already a light source; if he was the light source?
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@incomprehensible14 You are looking at this backwards. A Christian needs only to thank God because it is God who does all the work. God separates the Sheep from the Goats. God uses Dawkins everyday. In my case, he has used Dawkins to strengthen my faith. I listen to Dawkins and Hitchens a lot. Many theologians take their arguments head on, which is what I think needs to happen. Unfortunately, Dawkins would bore a Sunday school class to death.
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@incomprehensible14 Well, God did mention additional an light source. He was the light source.
Since you struggle with believing a creationist view of the world, which is understandable, I would move on to looking at the allegorical interpretations of the bible. It is my belief that the old testament is filled awesome allegories meant to convey the message of Jesus and the gospel.
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@XXXFirebird76XXX An omniscient god would've had the foresight to mention additional light sources that existed prior to the sun. Instead, Jehovah goes on to claim that the moon is a source of light and that all the stars in existence are around 6-10,000 years old inspite of the FACT that this is clearly not the case. It's worth mentioning that according to the bible, water existed in liquid form even before the sun was created as well. The bible's authenticity as the word of god is suspect.
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@XXXFirebird76XXX Mainstream science doesn't address the possibility of a creator one way or another (though it certainly doesn't agree with the bible). AS I said before, if all "true" christians are incapable of leaving christianity, they should thank mainstream science. Maybe even invite people like Dawkins to regularly teach sunday school just to make sure their congragations stay "pure". As far as Gen1 goes (which is what I assume you and @Boxcutter7 are talking about)...
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@Boxcutter7 @Boxcutter7 If you want to take it literally, who says that our sun was the only source of light at the time? Also, the triple X's mean nothing in my username. I was just created a name. I wasn't thinking about the porn implications. =)
If people who leave Christianity were never really Christians in the first place, than why are you so afraid of mainstream science being taught in schools? I mean any believer who takes those classes would surely never walk away from Yahweh if they're "real" Christians. If anything you should thank evolutionists for seperating the wheat from the chaff and making sure only "real" Christians remain... you're welcome.
incomprehensible14 11 months ago 16
I am a Christian but also I've been studying philosophy from over a decade. (I don't consider thinking a sin). According to you nobody could ever know if they are a Christian or not, because subjective conviction counts for nothing. How could I know whether my personal relationship to Christ/God is real or not, if I cannot trust my own judgment? We are human beings, Christianity is a choice (a leap of faith), amongst many other religions. Pardon me, but your video is weak and embarrassing
TheDanskTV 10 months ago 7