The Take (La Toma) English subtitles (8/9)
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When cooperative needs something, workers vote for it and they get it through their own networks with other cooperatives or they buy it with money they earn. It is not as hard as guys like you make it sound. When there are 200 workers votings for decision they tend to be better in long run than one boss and owner deciding everything from their interests.
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It is sad that guy like you try to proof those cooperatives cant work. Nobody has proven that cooperatives dont work in micro economical level better in globalized world than traditional capitalist production.
I have every reason to believe it is best way to produce goods when cooperatives are spit in size of about 200 workers each. When capitalists dont care about their own country anymore cooperatives is only way people can get the country back for them.
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what the IQ do here? whats the natural authority? seems it like a darwin logic or an Adam Smith logic.
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@99rhetbaboons "Animal Farm" was written by George Orwell who, as a democratic Socialist, fought in the Spanish Civil war against the Nationalists (and the Soviet's lapdogs to a lesser degree) to defend the exact sort of thing these people are doing. Check out "Homage to Catalonia"
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@99rhetbaboons I think you're missing Orwell's point, Animal farm was about Stalinist Communism, state control, Orwell was definitely against Capitalism as well. Perhaps you should learn a little bit more of George Orwell's life and political views before you start citing Animal Farm as relevant to something that it is not. This video is more along the lines of Anarcho-Syndicalism.
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(despite your comments being a year old)
I coudln't resist asking this question: what kind of moron are you to compare corporations to the coops in this documentary? Pull your head out of your ass before telling us who "deserves" to have power and who doesn't.
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Being a boss doesn't = you have more intelligence.. my boss is a fucking moron and runs his business pretty badly. He didnt even start it, it was handed down to him.
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@99rhetbaboons the term boss implies ownership leadership and ownership are two different things here this movement doesnt mean there wont be some kinda tier system just means that its no longer about 1 person garnering all the profits and the rest simply working for that persons gain
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There's a lot of battles to be fought in latin america. May the Che Guevara spirit rise in you people. You can do it, you just have to want it believe in it fermly and try hard.
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Nestor Kirchner 2011!
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There is plenty in this world to satisfy every need
but there will never be enough to satisfy greed..
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Great series, thank you for sharing your inspiration
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Small business is going quite well in Argentina...maybe if you would've said Venezuela, I would understand your point.
Small business is the backbone of US economy and should thrive in every free market economy, unless you have an anarchist or anti business mentality. Without stable property right laws, you have nothing but a banana republic and economic instability.
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Yeah, but then they'll become the new bosses, because there will always be somebody with a lower IQ that needs guidance, that needs to be bossed around or the factory will burn down from a stupid accident, and then your kids grow up and want to be bosses, and they're socialized in school to compete for the sake of competing and to be greedy. Read, "Animal Farm". It's the same story over and over. You can't get away from it.
99rhetbaboons 3 years ago
You see things very clear, but the lesson to be learned is not "you can't get away from it". The keyword is socialization, human culture is a dynamic system, not a fate. IQ is likely a more dynamic factor than previously thought. (Read among others: "Heritability Estimates Versus Large Environmental Effects:
The IQ Paradox Resolved" as published by the APA.) People with lower IQ don't need bosses, they need guides. There is a difference - a boss has privileges, a guide has responsibility.
Odroerir2 3 years ago 2
Maybe the most important thing is: Those with more competence will always teach those with less, but our "bosses" today aren't those with competence, they are those with power, nothing else. You don't need authority for that, there is no basis for your claims I'm afraid, other than the current state of society. And societies are constantly changing. As I said: Human culture is dynamic, and you shouldn't underestimate it.
Odroerir2 3 years ago 6
Ah, sorry - I meant you don't need institutionalized authority, all you need is natural authority, and that one always emerges as a dynamic factor - out of competence in a specific field, whereas "bosses" are an institutionalized authority, who do not emerge out of responisbility and competence, but matters of power: Politics, money, and in the worst but unfortunately common case, deceit, lies or mere luck.
Odroerir2 3 years ago