6-15 Bishop Spong -VS- Dr. Martin - Topic : Sexual Ethics

A debate between the controversial Episcopal Bishop of Newark, N.J., Rev. Spong, and Dr. Martin concerning. "Should the church condemn or condone homosexual and premarital sex?" Dr. Walter Martin, Dr. John Spong, Roger Montgomery Debate these Topics and More on the John Ankerberg Show. http://ankerberg.com/

This was Dr. Walter Martin's Last Debate before his Death. 1989 (June 24) Debate with Bishop Spong on "The John Ankerberg Show," the weekend prior to his death. 1989 (June 26) Walter R. Martin died peacefully at his home in San Juan Capistrano, California. He was 60 years old. Link to his Site Below

http://www.waltermartin.com/index.html

Wikepedia on Walter Martin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Martin

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[sivatmin]

This debate is really between Ankerberg and Spong...seems like poor Dr. Martin is left out only to acclaim Ankerberg's points.

[mumswording]

@metaldario The bible COMMANDS that you judge. Christians are told to first take the thorn out of your eye and THEN help take the plank out of your brothers.

The judgement that God does NOT want is hipocritial Judgement. If you re still get drunk regularly you are not to judge another person who IS a drunkerd

God also is against NON RIGHTOUSS judgement. Christians are to judge by the scripture. Sponge in his debate with James White looked FOOLISH! Unlearned and speaking Blasphemy

[youngoldbones]

@Operaandchant90 Spong, OBVIOUSLY, cant you even follow a question you started? You said you liked bishop Spong and how peaceful he is, I say that he is peacefully evil. Why is this so hard to understand for you? This Spong isn't even a Christian, he doesn't believe in the divinity of Christ!

GOD BLESS Dr. Walter Martin, he was a true voice for authentic scriptural truth.

[youngoldbones]

@Operaandchant90 Sponge isn't even a Christian in the genuine sense. I disagree with him on nearly everything. He talks sweetly softly yet he speaks evil and lies!!!

[Operaandchant90]

@youngoldbones are you saying this about bishop spong or Dr martin? Homosexuality is not wrong. Sexuality is morally neuter.

[youngoldbones]

@Operaandchant90 Yeah, He's peacefully evil and disparaging of true scripture.

[Operaandchant90]

i love how bishop spong is so peaceful, and Dr martin is attacking bishop spong.

[tiger507]

This is known as relativism, there is no right or wrong, nothing has been set as standard for morality, that is a satanic lie! God established the standards for morality!

[metaldario]

@SoaringTrumpet I didn´t misunterstand you. I agree with you that meanwhile almost everything has become "natural" and "tolerable". For myself it´s not, but that´s my own opinion, I surely judge noone. All I´m saying is that this so called bishop has absolutely nothing to do with biblical christianity. The doctrines he provides are masonic and not at all christian. He´s a perfect example for a "wolf in sheep´s clothing."

[SoaringTrumpet]

@metaldario You misunderstand me. I'm not concerned with your interpretation of "Scripture", which is only an account of the beliefs and practices of peoples living millenniums ago. I do care about a gay man or woman, having a sincere desire, being able to form a union recognized by the state, with all the rights that exist in current marriage. Ans it's perfectly "natural" for a gay man to lie with another man, just as it's "unnatural" for you (assuming you're straight) to lie with a man.

[metaldario]

@SoaringTrumpet This wasn´t just a prediction. As an "insider" Spong already knew what was to come, namely the legalization of practices that are an abomination to the Lord, and, as he himself admits, he even helped in bringing this about. So, it´s not that the bishop made a prediction, but Scripture actually predicts the state we live in, "when all power is given to the beast" and "people change their natural intercourse with unnatural."