Boulez: "Eclat"

Pierre Boulez, Eclat (1965)

Category:

Music

Tags:

• avant
• garde
• serialism
• new
• music
• modern

[finewines]

is this conducted by boulez himself?

[NewMusicXX]

yes, this is the Boulez version

[Crudblud89]

Music can and will be perceived differently by anyone who hears it. You don't like this music, which is fine, and I do understand your point about the possibility of some fans being pretentious, but not all of them are, some people -like myself- do genuinely enjoy this music, and aren't merely using it for appearances.

[freelancerkthnx]

To be honest I have never understood the accusations that fans of this music are "using it for appearances" - I can't ever recall a case in everyday life (at least in my own experience) where it has boosted the social status of the person who claimed to like this music... if anything it might get a raised eyebrow and change of conversation topic...

[pipaspaz]

Why it's not complete?



[musicguy119]

For some reason, my mind read "Boulez" as "Berlioz" and for a while I was very confused.

[stratenberg55]

quel taré ce boulez, il prend vraiment les gens pour des cons !

[PertinaciousOne]

@freelancerkthnx

I think what was meant was that pretentious people create an appearance in front of other people who are legitimate fans of this and genuinely appreciate it.

[7867088]

@Crudblud89 but I really like it and I like I. Xenakis too...and never for appearances!

[TassiloDavid]

Either that or you haven't yet discerned the musical relationships that are, in fact, there. That isn't to say that you couldn't learn to discern them by further listening.

[TassiloDavid]

Sony screwed up. Éclat ends with the attack that occurs between 9:14 and 9:15 of this video. This final sonority resonates until there is a fresh attack between 9:22 and 9:23. That fresh attack is actually the beginning of Multiples.

[Bongoke]

@stathagranak If anything serialism limits the composers output. The fact that you completely confine yourself to these mere 49 possibilities is almost the equivalent of inventing your own musical prison. Why not drop structure at all? I don't want music to proove some mathematical banality to me.

[mahler151]

Can't we just destroy the steretype that only pretentious d-bags listen to this kind of music? you don't have to be some kind of snob trying to look intelligent to enjoy this, you simply need to not be so closed minded.