Proof of God - Adam Deen

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[ilovetodrinkblood]

I'm convinced

[SliszMeisterGeneral]

Morality is sociopoltical, it is not objective. Morality is evolutionary and exists amongst other animals, bats for example. Morality exists outside of god, hence why atheists are, ironically, perhaps more moral than religions, such as the sexism involved within Islam and Christianity for example. Everyone is governed by society, even the morality of the vast majority of theists, hence why the immoral passages within the Bibles and Quran are ignored, because it is set by sociopolitcal.

[SliszMeisterGeneral]

I can't believe he actually did it - the universe must have a creator, i.e. God, well the how the hell did God get there!? Occum's Razor - it is more correct to think that the universe suddenly appeared than for an external being to have appeared who then created the universe, (for some reason, then decided for us to believe in him, for some reason). And don't argue that 'God was always there' because its not at all possible, everything MUST have a beginning, either way, Occum's Razor.

[Rare031]

Muslims hav made alot of effort in discussing with athiests by makin videos, organising events etc to show the proofs of God and Islam. But thyre failing to understand athiests wont belive not becaus the evidences r lame but becaus athiests only beliv the empiricism to b the only form of obtaining knowledge, unles they see how problomatic it is, its no use talkin about proofs. its psychology not science thats buggin alot of them, they dont like being told wat 2 do an make emotional arguments.

[ThankYouESM]

... what i'm really getting at is... for a truly compassionate almighty to exist in allowing "unnecessary evils" to occur makes as a contradiction... and to have such a god deceiving us would be like worshipping a huuuge bully who says he loves you, but really doesn't... however, i guess if you must do what he says just to entertain his twisted sense of humor or else get severely punished... then I suppose we might as well obey... to believe there exists a god.

[ThankYouESM]

Yet... I guess if you have a wife and children that you love dearly and they love you just the same, then absolutely have no recollection of them... you wouldn't be aware enough to feel "decieved" by such god, that we might as well be clones or not have to have ever existed... that this current life here on earth has no true meaning... if hardly, be the case... unless, like myself, you believe we are all everlasting conscience souls interactively learning about ourselves from our cosmic energy.

[ThankYouESM]

@manzar9121 - that is a fair question. maybe, the only way for me to answer that is to weigh this on a metaphoric scale of comparing equal rights. taking in the account of 2 extremes also sharing a near identical equation as disciplined... should it really be justifiable that the family that got in a fatal accident be entitled to be way more happier than the family that was thought fortunate to die painlessly? it would probably be better to let them completely wipe out those memories than repay.

[manzar9121]

@ThankYouESM

okhay, what if i say that those people who suffered in this world will be re-paid in the next life, and with much more than they could ever imagine of...a little pain, with huge rewards...what now?

[ThankYouESM]

@ThankYouESM -- * Typo: "... I'm quite sure a god does NOT* need to exist for cosmic energy to manifest near infinite possibilities..."

[ThankYouESM]

i would love to truly believe there's a god, that i possibly could enter into a heaven... but much of what I've learned as child... especially though a free weekly publication of "The Watch Tower" which I fully suspect is of covert athiests... a whole lot didn't seem to add up having seen the News and being a many times a witness. I'm quite sure a god does need to exist for cosmic energy to manifest near infinite possibilities that has always existed wayyyyy before we had our very own "Big Bang"