F/A-22 & YF-23 part 2

F/A-22 & YF-23 part 2

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[swisstestpilot]

But about failt Aircraft projetc spyes etc it happend not only by the Arrow . The aircraftdesinger Jackovlev sendet his on son out in a aircraft Factory (who producet Jak Bomber and the pre Serieal Sukhoj Su-15 lot) that his son copy the Su-15 Air intake dravings , and Jackolew used tis for his New jetfighter (but a poor old desing giav not automaticly a better fighter when you only add bether engins).

[nightowl8936]

Further to my comments about Lockheed... its the CIA, for whom the U2 was developed, that portray Americans at their worst.

Nasty, immoral, rabid, degenerate American agents cause all kinds of havoc in the world, even for their allies, as what happened to the Arrow.

CIA are one major reason America is hated by many countries. Even Canada has been stung by their venom.

[swisstestpilot]

Well Canda is tottaly differend as the USA the Political system is differend they have French and English speaking. Its a diffrend lifesty Canady has in some way more the European lifestyl who is listen carfuly to the others ans discus a solution out this is a long proces with no action pic in TV with difficult reasons . But the American Politics like to have fast and efectiv results They like to see things only black or withe. I hope for a chanche in the USa

[newmanfrigan]

@swisstestpilot No it's really not different at all. I'm German. I live in the US. I have relatives in Canada (Montreal and Nova Scotia), so I'm sure you can appreciate my perspective. As a fellow military aviation prof I further will expect to have you understand I have no reason to lie to you. Canadians are 92% American style people. It's just that everyone hates my country the USA, which I love...schade nicht? ALL BECAUSE: people on the rightwing (22%) vote maniacs like busHitler in.

[swisstestpilot]

@newmanfrigan Well i think the discusion went now away of aircrafts. Iknew some people in the USA and some in Canada. I only wuld say in general Canada is a bit more linket to Europa than the USA (metric system, part of the Britishs Commonwealth).Its like somebody would say Germans and Swiss are the same. I want to point out that the canceling of the Canadian Avro Arrow aircraft was a Canadian Politic mather and its wrong if someone blame the USA .

[nightowl8936]

All of those planes you mention are the product of ONE tiny sliver of Lockheed, the Advanced Development section ... the Skunk Works, and in particular Kelly Johnson, and later, Ben Rich with the F-117.

One thing I do not endure gladly is when politics trumps technical/engineering excellence, especially when Canada suffered as a result of their "patriotism".

We're their allies/friends, yet they would rather have inferior technology made in USA than better stuff made by Canada.

Stupid^3!!

[swisstestpilot]

But like the USA and Candas it was the same with the swiss N-20 Multiroljet or the P-16 fighterbomber , they wher a head of theyer time but uin the end our politicans buyet the British Venom Vampire and Hunter who wasent so advanct. I think at SAAB of Sweden they are quit similar like switzerland and have a jetighter who is very well (used by S, HU, CZ and ZA) Imagen if what could bee when the Arrow program or the swiss P-16 would have found theyer way in the duty of CAF resp SAF

[Nickshark1982]

Hate to see the YF 23 sitting there doing nothing

[pilotliam]

YF23 looks more like a bomber than an air superiority fighter...

[krittmasta]

F-22 should be in the bucket instead of YF-23

[StiviGun1]

I really don't understand how the YF-22 and YF-23 had similar performances. The YF-23 was faster, it had a much better thrust/weight ratio. It was better. I really laughed when that guy said that "they had the 2nd best fighter in the world". The YF-23 had twice the range of the F-22, it could fly at higher speeds, it had better T/W ratio, better stealth. It was better in every sense of the way. The only way I can see the F-22 was adopted was because of a scam. I can't find another explanation.

[Antifaith29]

I didnt know the 22 had the F/A designation. Thought the 18 still held onto that designation alone. Interesting.

[DrJCCC20]

Ill be completely honest this is a bunch of F22 info. it is the best dogfighter tho. YF23 should be made into a fighter bomber lol

[nyukouiti1]

凄恐ろしい機体だ！！

[faokim]

The 23 looks cool also, too bad its not gonna be in operation