@musubk why would another star NOT have the same properties as our Sun? Even if it was not fully formed magnetic forces WOULD be in effect and perterbing our Sun, even now. Some attribute "global warming" to this. SPT is an infered telescope and "looks" for temp. signatures out in deep space. Since PlanetX was "seen" by IRAS in '83 and talked about in NewsWeek the SPT was put there to gain telemetry while it is inbound. Like comets, it's orbit (aprox.3,600yrs.)is perpendicular to ecliptic.Cheer!
@musubk Fact #2: Nibiru-believers claim the SPT discovered it in January. This only shows how ignorant they are about astronomy - the antarctic has 24 hours of daylight in January. It is literally impossible for the SPT to discover *anything* in January because they simply can't use the telescope at all - it's daylight, all the time. Nibiru is just some dumb new-age conspiracy theory that makes no sense in light of actual science, so they sell it to gullible people who don't know the science.
@musubk If it's approaching through the ecliptic plane, as most Nibiru-believers say, then it's visible from essentially everywhere on earth - with the complication that it would be near the horizon when viewed from the poles, making the SPT one of the worst places on earth to view it. So how is it possible to claim that SPT is the only scope that can see it? That is just impossible, it should be visible from all over the world. But it's not. Conclusion - it does not exist.
@trex9008 No. *If* another star were to approach the sun, the interaction would be gravitational, not magnetic. It would not affect CME production, which is a magnetic process. There is no mechanism by which an approaching star could affect CME production on our star. And no, the South Pole Telescope has not identified anything of the sort. Fact #1: anything visible from the south pole is visible from *at least* the entire southern hemisphere of Earth.
@musubk if PlanetX is a Brown Dwarf star then as it approaches perihelion (closest to Sun, 21Dec.2012) will effect the Sun. Any planets associated w/BDstar will interact also. Pics. from SPT (So. Pole Tele., NibiruShock2012) shows four major, one almost as big as Jupiter (Nibiru?) and three minor. Good luck w/that.
@trex9008 This is silly. Nibiru doesn't exist, and even if it did, there's no mechanism by which it could cause increased CME production in the Sun. That's a magnetic process, it doesn't care about gravitational interactions.
@musubk - Hence the fact that aurorae are more common ~25º south of the magnetic pole than at the pole itself - see the auroral oval. If the aurora were due to particles injected directly through the cusp, they would be most common at the pole, where the cusp is most open.
@MWAHAHAHAHAAHH Stuff does enter through the 'polar cusp', which is the area you're talking about, but this only accounts for dim red aurorae, barely visible to the eye under the best conditions. That bright aurorae you see when you see pictures of big red and green arcs in the sky come from compression of the magnetic field in the tail, where the field lines 'reconnect' and globs of plasma are released along the line into the ionosphere. This animation is correct.
As the object (Planet X, Nibiru, Dark Star, etc.) approaches it will perturb the Sun causing CMEs. More & more people will be effected. If object rapidly approaching is Brown Dwarf Star in a binary relationship w/Sun expect possible CMEs from it as it gets closer to Sun. We might have two Suns by end of '12 into '13(star charts I've seen show perihelion around Feb, 15, Yowusa.com). Good advice is had from Cut to The Chase Radio from Marshall Masters on this issue. Good luck w/future CMEs cheers!
what happens when the magnetosphere is gone? all the ones on the left switched to the right?
ducktapeshark 2 months ago
@musubk why would another star NOT have the same properties as our Sun? Even if it was not fully formed magnetic forces WOULD be in effect and perterbing our Sun, even now. Some attribute "global warming" to this. SPT is an infered telescope and "looks" for temp. signatures out in deep space. Since PlanetX was "seen" by IRAS in '83 and talked about in NewsWeek the SPT was put there to gain telemetry while it is inbound. Like comets, it's orbit (aprox.3,600yrs.)is perpendicular to ecliptic.Cheer!
trex9008 4 months ago
@musubk Fact #2: Nibiru-believers claim the SPT discovered it in January. This only shows how ignorant they are about astronomy - the antarctic has 24 hours of daylight in January. It is literally impossible for the SPT to discover *anything* in January because they simply can't use the telescope at all - it's daylight, all the time. Nibiru is just some dumb new-age conspiracy theory that makes no sense in light of actual science, so they sell it to gullible people who don't know the science.
musubk 4 months ago
@musubk If it's approaching through the ecliptic plane, as most Nibiru-believers say, then it's visible from essentially everywhere on earth - with the complication that it would be near the horizon when viewed from the poles, making the SPT one of the worst places on earth to view it. So how is it possible to claim that SPT is the only scope that can see it? That is just impossible, it should be visible from all over the world. But it's not. Conclusion - it does not exist.
musubk 4 months ago
@trex9008 No. *If* another star were to approach the sun, the interaction would be gravitational, not magnetic. It would not affect CME production, which is a magnetic process. There is no mechanism by which an approaching star could affect CME production on our star. And no, the South Pole Telescope has not identified anything of the sort. Fact #1: anything visible from the south pole is visible from *at least* the entire southern hemisphere of Earth.
musubk 4 months ago
@musubk if PlanetX is a Brown Dwarf star then as it approaches perihelion (closest to Sun, 21Dec.2012) will effect the Sun. Any planets associated w/BDstar will interact also. Pics. from SPT (So. Pole Tele., NibiruShock2012) shows four major, one almost as big as Jupiter (Nibiru?) and three minor. Good luck w/that.
trex9008 4 months ago
@trex9008 This is silly. Nibiru doesn't exist, and even if it did, there's no mechanism by which it could cause increased CME production in the Sun. That's a magnetic process, it doesn't care about gravitational interactions.
musubk 4 months ago
@musubk - Hence the fact that aurorae are more common ~25º south of the magnetic pole than at the pole itself - see the auroral oval. If the aurora were due to particles injected directly through the cusp, they would be most common at the pole, where the cusp is most open.
musubk 4 months ago
@MWAHAHAHAHAAHH Stuff does enter through the 'polar cusp', which is the area you're talking about, but this only accounts for dim red aurorae, barely visible to the eye under the best conditions. That bright aurorae you see when you see pictures of big red and green arcs in the sky come from compression of the magnetic field in the tail, where the field lines 'reconnect' and globs of plasma are released along the line into the ionosphere. This animation is correct.
musubk 4 months ago
As the object (Planet X, Nibiru, Dark Star, etc.) approaches it will perturb the Sun causing CMEs. More & more people will be effected. If object rapidly approaching is Brown Dwarf Star in a binary relationship w/Sun expect possible CMEs from it as it gets closer to Sun. We might have two Suns by end of '12 into '13(star charts I've seen show perihelion around Feb, 15, Yowusa.com). Good advice is had from Cut to The Chase Radio from Marshall Masters on this issue. Good luck w/future CMEs cheers!
trex9008 6 months ago