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F-16 Intercepts Jet & Turboprop Legally Flying Through MOA

When two GA pilots, one flying a Pilatus PC-12 and the other in a Beechcraft Premier jet, encountered an F-16 in a Military Operations Area used by Luke Air Force Base in Arizona last March, they h...  
 
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gnsexe (1 month ago)
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Mxsmanic (1 month ago) Show Hide
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With military pilots this reckless and incompetent "protecting" us, who needs enemies?
fly4vino (2 months ago) Show Hide
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The blind acceptance of an attorney's version of the story and the hysterical response is the primary reason my AOPA membership is now terminated. My hope is that others follow.
fly4vino (2 months ago) Show Hide
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Let's see these guys are in a hot MOA and they are surprised that military aircraft are nearby. They are also dumb enough to think that TCAS is providing them with useful information.

TCAS is designed to provide guidance when encountering aircraft flying civilian flight profiles, not military aircraft climbing 25,000 fpm and pulling 5g .

To expect military pilots preparing for a combat environment to have one ear open to listen to controllers is dumb.. dofus attorney, the MOA is hot
AirplaneRider (3 months ago) Show Hide
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Are you joking? What would you imagine the F16 pilot would say? How about, "Hey guys, I'm about to break part 91.111 by coming up and flying formation 10 feet off your left wing without your consent." Right.

It would not have diminished the danger one bit. They still would have performed their avoidance maneuvers to get away from the moron in the F16.
justinaurelius (3 months ago) Show Hide
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Or they could have told the F16 to piss off; thereby making him think twice about it. Also everyone in the area would have heard it on the 121.5 channel so when they filed a complaint witnesses could potentially sign on the dotted line.
AirplaneRider (3 months ago) Show Hide
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I give up. What you are proposing is about as absurd as expecting criminals to sign a confession before they commit a crime.
justinaurelius (3 months ago) Show Hide
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No charges were filed, therefore there was no crime.
You have to understand the military is the same as the police, a good 'ol boys club - they watch out for each other.
Hence broadcasting on the 121.5 all over Creation for everyone to hear is always a good idea.
AirplaneRider (3 months ago) Show Hide
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Wow, you are dense. I was making an analogy about a crimal. While the F16 pilot did not commit a crime (I never said that), he did break the regs and he was reprimanded.

121.5 is a channel for emergencies. It's not a CB channel for hot dog fighter pilots to announce their position and intentions to buzz people. So no, using 21.5 in this case would not only serve no purpose whatsoever, but would also constitute a violation of the regulations.
justinaurelius (3 months ago) Show Hide
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Or he could be listening.
The pilots could bitch and moan he's getting too close.

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