Independent group uses Lancet study to project Iraq death toll
2007-08-10
Last year, the medical journal The Lancet published an estimate of 650,000 excess deaths in Iraq based on a demographic s...
Independent group uses Lancet study to project Iraq death toll
2007-08-10
Last year, the medical journal The Lancet published an estimate of 650,000 excess deaths in Iraq based on a demographic study conducted by field workers questioning people in clusters throughout Iraq.
The group Just Foreign Policy has taken that number and projected it using Iraq Body Count, which tallies deaths reported by Western media sources. This leads to a rough estimate that one million Iraqis have now been killed in the conflict since the U.S.'s 2003 invasion and occupation.
When The Lancet published the 650,000 estimate, President George W. Bush said: "600,000 or whatever they guessed at is just, it's not credible."
We speak to Les Roberts, now at Columbia University, who is co-author of The Lancet piece "Mortality after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: a cross-sectional cluster sample survey." Roberts has studied other conflicts, including in Congo, where his estimates have been widely accepted.
We also speak with Robert Naiman of the group Just Foreign Policy.
Why the disparity between the Iraq Body Count numbers and The Lancet study? Patrick Ball of the group Benetech has noted: "Methods such as media reports typically capture violence well when it is moderate, but when it really increases, they miss a great deal." (Ball is a co-author of the book State Violence in Guatemala, 1960-1996, and wrote the chapter "On the Quantification of Horror: Field Notes on Statistical Analysis of Human Rights Violations" in the book Repression and Mobilization.)
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I always sell weapons of mass destruction to my enemies, sell saddam sarin gas, anthrax, helicopters, can anyone say donald rumsfeld? Should saddam use those weapons of mass destruction, I will take over his country and kill the children. Hypocrisy is of the devil, do a search: jesus is saviour devil sign
Bomb!? What bomb? Why not an giant astroid or sumtin.. It was never a real issue if Iraq had (almost) nucleair bomb, Maybe only at the US news channels . This claim was not only unmasked as fake, shortly after (by CIA reports), it was technical unpossible - what America already knew. That's why this big joke about the "yellow cake from africa"-story turned up suddenly - and turns out to be a lie too. In the meanwhile: 1mln kids did die because lack of medication caused by (US) trade-embargo.
the elites in all nations use war to kill off poor people, now that usa is getting more poor their own army is going to kill them off , initially indirectly through soft kill biologics, but the troops are just following orders you see.
Uh no, I understand your opinion but it is false, so your saying that the people who died fighting in the revolutionary war just wanted to kill british soldiers. Iraq war was caused by terrorist, and Hussein killing off his own people, mustard gas, bombing Israeli, and killing anyone who didnt agree with him. We went in killed him and are now holding the country to defeat terrorism.
You got your facts FUCKED UP, pal. Saddam was a dictator as Bush was the same. He lived lavish and kicked ass when his ppl got outta line. While that may not be right, it has shit to do with us. They're crime rate was almost non existent. Now what? Things are fucked beyond fixing and there are millions dead and for what. War profits? Wake up, lil conservative sheep. I'm conservative too but I don't listen to FOX or anything that comes on TV. You're WRONG
It's already admitted Iraq had totally nothin to do with 9/11. The US did start the chaos in Iraq already since the '80s, and had already plans before 9/11 to attack Saddam.
America is killing, torturing, and breaking all laws by raiding Iraq, and only causing hate - read: more terrorism.
Guess what i will do when American troops land in my backyard?? Wave with flag till i got phosphored, tortured, displaced, and my country in ruins en polluted with nuclear waste? Guess again!
well, quite a few, the elites in all countries manipulate armies to kill off the poor in whatever nation they are in, so certainly, it's also hostile insurgents. but , you will agree, the us armed services are beginning to use potentially deadly force against protestors. but will likely attempt biologics, to diffuse dissent.
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That's why this big joke about the "yellow cake from africa"-story turned up suddenly - and turns out to be a lie too. In the meanwhile: 1mln kids did die because lack of medication caused by (US) trade-embargo.
America is killing, torturing, and breaking all laws by raiding Iraq, and only causing hate - read: more terrorism.
Guess what i will do when American troops land in my backyard?? Wave with flag till i got phosphored, tortured, displaced, and my country in ruins en polluted with nuclear waste? Guess again!