Fusen Ryu Enbu.
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@Finny1996 It is a misunderstanding reproduced by John Danaher in his Mastering Jujitsu.
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Gostei muito, pena que a arte hoje é desvalorizada!!
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Great technic
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@Finny1996 The origin of BJJ is just Kodokan Judo, Mitsuyo Maeda never trained Kosen.
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I agree completely, the Fusen Ryu-BJJ connection is mostly a myth because the Gracies did not want to site Judo as the parent art. Sadly, it has been often repeated.
Watch Judo newaza of the period and compare it to BJJ.
Then watch Fusen Ryu & compare it to BJJ.
The answer is clear.
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ouch! those are some nasty hardwood floor ukemi. tough dudes!
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@Finny1996 I think Maeda taught little Carlos Gracie self-defense techniques and, told him (and the other students in the class) that it was jujitsu, since the western world used that term to describe all Japanese martial arts. They wouldn't have understood the difference between Judo and, Jujitsu and, if he told them it was Judo and, not jujitsu, they would have been disappointed.
Kosen is not a style, it's the rules used in the Japanese technical schools, that favor ground tactics, or Ne Waza.
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@billysue2 OMG. Another person who get's it!! Maeda sensei taought x% of his judo to Carlos. Carlos lived to what? 90 something? Does anyone know how long he really studied with Maeda and can anyone believe he really passed up his yondan (back in the day) teacher? Doubtful.
Kosen = Koko Gakko Semon Gakko ... high school and technical colleges where old rules tournaments still flourished ... but is is judo.
the founder of Sambo died (firing squad) rather than say "not Japanese"
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@billysue2 Yeah, did I say any of that?
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@holdyerground1 kosen judo isnt a style and was never created by anyone,its a ruleset that the kodokan abandoned to make for more spectacular contests.Everything in kosen was once in all of judo.The judo taught to carlos gracie was just regular judo of the time and tactics maeda picked up in matchfights
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Fusen Ryu AFAIK is not specifically a "ground oriented" style. I believe that is a myth that arose due to the Fusen Ryu beating Kano's Kodokan Judo folks using ground techniques, which led to the creation of Kosen Judo, which is supposedly the origin of BJJ.
Finny1996 5 years ago