Jason Marsalis says...
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First of all, 9/8 is not an odd meter time. 9/8 is very common. 7/8, 5/4, etc. aren't even exactly that odd anymore. Maybe it is enjoyable to listen to "abstract nerd music" for some people. Just because you don't get into it, doesn't mean other people don't. And I don't think there are any colleges that neglect to teach standards. You have to know how to play in 4/4 before playing in 5/4. And why can't nerds be entertained as well?
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Jason is awesome! I just met him at Sitka jazz fest were he was playing with Ed Littlefield and Christian Fabian again. Great shows
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I do agree about what JM is saying. It is true for the people that are trying to play "jazz" But what ive found, many of these artists that are playing this new style with odd time and chromatic solos do not refer to it as jazz, they just call it music, since it really has no true name yet. It just seems that from the choice of instrumentation, people cant classify it as anything else. They cant think of a new name so they just label it as jazz or "cutting edge" or whatever people call it.
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I met Jason in Juneau, AK once. He was playing with Ed Littlefield (based out of Seattle) and Christian Fabian (based out of NJ). He played some "Donna Lee" on vibes, it was pretty interesting.
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woah! i mean, whoah! or is it "whoa!" .........a lot of anger, and while it contains an element of truth, i don't believe jason marsalis has heard much jazz outside of his small circle of friends.
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Everyone is so crazy here. All thats happening is, musicians that have followed the lineage are upset about the name "jazz" being used to describe music coming out of universities. They are blaming the lack of jazz popularity to music that comes out of what is generally universities. I don't mind them being worried about that. the name could be different for university jazz to solve there problem. then people could understand its a different thing. But might it be too far to say it sucks?
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"you know what i think sucks? any conversation about how much jazz sucks" - Vijay Iyer
How true is that!
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@culturesmatter how about live at the philharmonic 1949, and charlie parker: jam sessions, and early modern for starters.
while you may have a point in another discussion, it is not valid in this one. the marsalis' point is not about their fellow peers, i should know as i have had conversations with branford and other people. they can do their own thing. the finger is being pointed squarely at the majority jazz faculties and a broad section of jazz students today. i am sure you will agree.
As odd as it may seem though, it's pretty comforting and reassuring. When musicians are using the same words about the most modern forms of that music that the one that were being thrown at say Charlie Parker, Thelonious Monk, and later at John Coltrane, Paul Bley, Eric Dolphy, Andrew Hill, Cecil Taylor (and the list goes on and on), it tells us we're living a great jazz era !
speciman70 1 year ago 7
Yes, we need to recognize the people of the past, but we need to advance the music into the future. While he makes BROAD statements, I think he's talking about a much smaller sect of the jazz world than just anybody who plays in odd meters, or takes their solos out, but at the same time, its not good to generalize and thats all he's doing.
theNAFACT0R 1 year ago 4