Clean coal is fictional

Jessy Tolkan: Washington saying coal industry can be "clean" is pure fiction

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[JixMa]

The USA seriously needs new parties. The two-party duopoly that's in place now, does NOT represent the American people. It represents corporations and anyone with money. You got money? Congress, the President and anyone running for anything, will listen to your wishes. In short it's "pay to play". No money? Hit the bricks, pal! You simply don't matter to them. Look at the health care scandal! All those motherfuckers debating the "issues" (and I use the word loosely) have been bought & paid for.

[peymaania]

Isn't clean coal a bit like clean shit?

I mean at some point folks need to understand that Carbon is not the

way to go. But then again we are

dealing with ignoramuses!

[noobenstein]

THORIUM!

[ezcondition]

i'm for clean energy, but i'm not sure this person knows anything about it other than the words "green energy" how can you expect us to come up with country wide green energy in 4 years? stupid. a swing to it: not economically possible, fazing out: very doable.

[captinseperoth]

@hablerz

they say

if america went with its original plan to build TONS of atomic power plants we would be inline with the kyoto treaty,plus 12% of leg room.

we can repossess the waste,yet it's kinda expensive...like saltwater purifing plants,yet if we work hard...maybe we could drasticly cut down the half life of uranium

also,another idea is to sink the casks in the very deep portions of the oceans where subduction zones are located.

over time the casks would be adsorbed into the crust.

[hablerz]

@captinseperoth Well thay havent got round to building it on land so i doubt they will build it in space either. I feel we should move ahead with the technologies that we have today , then later we can hopefully come up with a better solution.

I see wind turbines as a stop gap and solar is still fairly inefficient, but its better than destroying the planet in one way or another.

[captinseperoth]

@hablerz people will demonize fusion when it finally arrives for the mass market,thinking it will make their pets green,even though it makes the sun operate.

I dont get why do people focus on solar so much,focus most effort on fusion..rather trying to capture the end product of fusion.

also with solar you need about 500,000 square miles of solar panels to power the country on pure solar.

if that's the case,why not build them out in space and beam it wireless as its more efficient than land?

[hablerz]

@hablerz Also im going to be pedantic . You cant die from an air bubble in your vein, you can die if you have many air bubbles but not one. Thats an urban myth.

[hablerz]

@captinseperoth Trust me there are no tree huggers in congress , those guys are bought and sold by the corperations , they are employed by the corperations.

At the moment coal puts a lot fo money their way. If you realy had a green agenda you could have gone green in the 1970s when Jimmy Carter was pushing it. You could grow hemp for paper ,oil and plastics if that was the case.

Congress backs Monsanto, oil companies , coal companies and backs war hardly the attitude of treehuggers is it.

[hablerz]

@captinseperoth I realise that Uranuim reactors are still inefficient, after all radioactivity is energy so in theory they shouldnt produce any waste.

Uranium mining is not a clean operation ,that damage will last generations and its unquantifiable at the moment but it could be a time bomb.

I dont support coal for a variety of reasons air polution , ground water and river pollution etc.

As far as im concerned nuclear power is still a work in progress.

[captinseperoth]

@hablerz

waste still has 80 percent of its energy still left in it,after the first "batch"

but the reason why you dont hear much of atomic energy,besides that it's "evil",becuse of the

treehuggers in congress,and in holly wood that demonizes it.

the fact is more people will die this year related to coal energy than the bast 2-3 decades.

if people hate cancer, ban cigarettes.

fly ash,which is coal waste is far more toxic in weight ration vs atomic waste

a bubble of air in blood,kills

[hablerz]

@captinseperoth Uranium isnt the way to go , the waste takes thousands of years to degrade even when used in fast breeders. You cant legislate for that timescale. Plus the mines create pollution that we dont even know the full extent of yet.

Thorium maybe, seems funny that it hasnt received more attention im guessing theres a big catch to it somewhere.