Sinking the USS Vermilion
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@unabnats Tanks were far too large to fit on Higgins boats, The instant release parachute harness had not been invented yet, there were no empty beaches, if the Higgins boats opened at the back, no one would have made it on the beach. Every available plane was performing close air support. Lessons learned in the Pacific were applied at Normandy. Destroyers provided 'point blank' fire support.
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20/20 hindsight. A frustrating hobby. How could the Allies not have P-47s giving close air support? Why were the paratroopers not dressed in breakaway flight suits to be able to unburden themselves of gear and outer clothing in one movement upon entering flooded fields, where many landed and immediately drowned. Why didn't they put a few tanks directly into the Higgins Boats? Why did all the Higgins Boats open from the front? Couldn;t a few been sacrificed by going in empty right into the beach?
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The gunpowder could be towed and placed behind the ship, with pulleys or something for transfer. The Luftwaffe did not respond to DDay. Maybe they didn't know that would be the case though.
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I got into this discussion to ask something. These ships have finned (not flat bottomed) hulls. What happens if one get grounded by getting to near the shallows of a beach. Will it tip over right away, drowning all below, or can it be made to stay upright? It's said that at Omaha beach, some ship captains risked grouning to get close enough to see through the smoke. Thereby having use of the big guns. And it worked. Maybe, I thought, that should have been a policy. Perhaps even use river boats.
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@ballkans To continue........I an willing to proof any post you write to make it clearer. I don't agree with everything you write, but that is not the point. I'm just offering help. Anyone who knows 4 languages, and is interested in history, is worth helping, and knowing, to me. You probably know Russian. Which I believe has the largest vocabulary of the major languages. Plus, a different alphabet.Your pride of your culture, and self-deprecating (we were barbarians) humor is charming.
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@ballkans Hey, don't get me wrong. I respect your opinion, I really do. And I sympathize with your trouble spelling. But, spelling isn't that important. I think maybe when you're angry, your thoughts get ahead of your context. In other words, maybe your word ORDER is off a little. Many foreign speakers do this, and an affirmative, can come out like a negative. I do get the basic thought you trying to convey. But others might not. Maybe I can help. If you wish, friend me, and we can discuss.
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@vibratingstring Have to disagree with you here. Von Braun was a Nazi Scientist, who used slave labor, who surrendered to Americans rather than Russuans, because he figured he'd get away with whatever War Crimes commited be offering his sevices to the USA military. And it worked. He had no trouble with corruption and slavery, and equality? In 1945? Give me a break. Our record of letting Nazis off the hook, for expediency, was a disgusting, even shocking, fact that is well documented and still
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@ballkans Please help ME understand. And I am man. Are you trashing Europeans who came to USA? Or, trashing Americans for trashing Europeans? It really is unclear. Also, what about Russians? They conquered the Balkans and killed many of THEM! Are you angry about that? If not, why not? Or, are you Russian yourself? In which case, YOU are the imperialist. What Russians did to the Balkans is as bad (well, not quite) as what happened to Native Americans.
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@ballkans Umm......Stealing scientists? All's fair in love and war, they say. So, I won't blame USSR for spying and stealing USA technology. We do same. But by the same token, don't whine about it either. The USSR obtained the A-bomb by spying. It reverse engineered a captured B-29, and built a whole fleet of them, even though by then obsolete. So stop complaining. Anyway, we both should guard against China, comrade.
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@ballkans you make a very good point my friend. now that i think of it that is really true. FUCK EM! haha
hmm, steel is 8 cents a pound or 12 in winter. where is this ship located :P
keithbu 9 months ago 17
when a ship is sunk for artificial reefs, it is completely expunged of any hazardous materials,etc, before sinking....pollution....what freaking goobers you people are!
CADMAN4665 8 months ago 16