@ninacalifornia I agree with everything you said, the irony is that Putin was said to be the first democratically elected president, alleged vote-rigging during the elections is the hallmark of a pseudo-democracy, Russia's economy is in the hands of only a few mafia-type groups who exercise monopoly powers.
@BAxxxKJ 3/3 - and the subjugated nations started "rethinking" the relationship. That's when Russia opened up for business, and a tidal wave of capitalism went it and the oligarchs fared well. Of course, a new strong man (Putin) managed to get back into power and decided that his KGB cronies could run business better, so decided to trump charges against the oligarchs, who weren't angels either. Moral of the story: they all deserve each other, including the people who voted for him.
@BAxxxKJ - 2/3 That's why the USSR government decided to go troll the world spreading their "religion". By talking countries like Cuba into the appeal of communism, they talked them into nationalizing (uhm, stealing) what capitalists had invested. Then, the resources were shipped cheap to Russia and paid with guns to keep the Cuban people quiet. Bet you louie wouldn't tell anyone about that. Finally, with the disintegration of the USSR, they could no longer afford to pay anything
@BAxxxKJ - 1/3 What many don't see is that if the government interferes in the free market, they get to have nothing. Using USSR as the example, not only did they not get much out of their space program, but they got nothing out of the economic side either. The population got screwed on both accounts. No wonder they became masters at tax dodging. Since they couldn't get the tyrants out of office, at least they didn't pay much for them to stay there.
@ninacalifornia Agreed, what's even worse, they can devote half the resources to the military, which is what happened in exUSSR during the Cold War. It's nothing less that brainwashing state sponshorship.
@BAxxxKJ Sure, any country can find and devote the resources needed for space travel, if they decide to starve their own people. However, very few countries do space travel and provide a level playing field that creates affluence to their own people. It's not difficult to do it, all the government has to do is get the hell out of the way of business people, and they get to have both luxuries.
@louiethegreater And that's exactly why Castro got slapped, along with his compatriots that fell for his bullshit. louie, although you deny it, you definitely have fallen for the commie line, which gets no one nowhere on some non-sensical righteous high road. Given the chance of running this nation, you actually would be worse than Obama and manage to do more damage faster. Quite a feat, actually, but one that we certainly don't need.
So the Soviet Union was able to modernize in one generation, that doesn't imply that the standard of living rose at all, and indeed it didn't. Hiccups in the supply chain, widespread famine--it would take over a year to have a car which you've already purchased finally delivered to you, their industrial policy was a disaster. It's hard to take Mr. Chomsky seriously if he's going to hold the Soviet Union up as a paragon of socialism, even when I'm a fan of his.
@ninacalifornia I agree with everything you said, the irony is that Putin was said to be the first democratically elected president, alleged vote-rigging during the elections is the hallmark of a pseudo-democracy, Russia's economy is in the hands of only a few mafia-type groups who exercise monopoly powers.
BAxxxKJ 7 hours ago
@BAxxxKJ 3/3 - and the subjugated nations started "rethinking" the relationship. That's when Russia opened up for business, and a tidal wave of capitalism went it and the oligarchs fared well. Of course, a new strong man (Putin) managed to get back into power and decided that his KGB cronies could run business better, so decided to trump charges against the oligarchs, who weren't angels either. Moral of the story: they all deserve each other, including the people who voted for him.
ninacalifornia 8 hours ago
@BAxxxKJ - 2/3 That's why the USSR government decided to go troll the world spreading their "religion". By talking countries like Cuba into the appeal of communism, they talked them into nationalizing (uhm, stealing) what capitalists had invested. Then, the resources were shipped cheap to Russia and paid with guns to keep the Cuban people quiet. Bet you louie wouldn't tell anyone about that. Finally, with the disintegration of the USSR, they could no longer afford to pay anything
ninacalifornia 8 hours ago
@BAxxxKJ - 1/3 What many don't see is that if the government interferes in the free market, they get to have nothing. Using USSR as the example, not only did they not get much out of their space program, but they got nothing out of the economic side either. The population got screwed on both accounts. No wonder they became masters at tax dodging. Since they couldn't get the tyrants out of office, at least they didn't pay much for them to stay there.
ninacalifornia 8 hours ago
@ninacalifornia Agreed, what's even worse, they can devote half the resources to the military, which is what happened in exUSSR during the Cold War. It's nothing less that brainwashing state sponshorship.
BAxxxKJ 11 hours ago
@BAxxxKJ Sure, any country can find and devote the resources needed for space travel, if they decide to starve their own people. However, very few countries do space travel and provide a level playing field that creates affluence to their own people. It's not difficult to do it, all the government has to do is get the hell out of the way of business people, and they get to have both luxuries.
ninacalifornia 19 hours ago
@louiethegreater And that's exactly why Castro got slapped, along with his compatriots that fell for his bullshit. louie, although you deny it, you definitely have fallen for the commie line, which gets no one nowhere on some non-sensical righteous high road. Given the chance of running this nation, you actually would be worse than Obama and manage to do more damage faster. Quite a feat, actually, but one that we certainly don't need.
ninacalifornia 19 hours ago
@xxcrysad3000xx Widespread famine, and it didn't prevent from sending Yuri Gagarin in space.
BAxxxKJ 1 day ago
So the Soviet Union was able to modernize in one generation, that doesn't imply that the standard of living rose at all, and indeed it didn't. Hiccups in the supply chain, widespread famine--it would take over a year to have a car which you've already purchased finally delivered to you, their industrial policy was a disaster. It's hard to take Mr. Chomsky seriously if he's going to hold the Soviet Union up as a paragon of socialism, even when I'm a fan of his.
xxcrysad3000xx 1 day ago
@ninacalifornia--- nina are you mad, why don't you come out and play. I promise not to call you a sick pervert again.
louiethegreater 1 day ago