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[2bsirius]

I hope the dissertation work is going well....

I have to admit that when I see the two words "integral consciousness," I always substitute the worlds "magical thinking."

Wouldn't the Gebser idea just be subjective consciousness or MAYBE intra-subjective consciousness?

Integral consciousness seems to be our collective narratives...Your example of the Aztecs reminds me of the obverse of Jerad Diamond's take on culture...

I guess I'm just saying that we need to stick to intellectual rigor...

[thepathlesspath]

well he often described it as "Aperspectival" and all of its descriptions could be placed in a Zen book... Wilber's idea of integral seems more aligned with "Map/Model making"

[thepathlesspath]

also, maybe not our collective narratives alone, but the story of how they have unfolded, the critical point of being able to be conscious of them and how we use them (today), and their origins, which gebser also described as "spiritual"

[thepathlesspath]

i didn't want to get into this in this video but i'd definitely love to share some of the specific ways he describes it. maybe that'll be the next vid... he goes through describing our consciousness structured the world in previous "epochs." big shifts from 1,2,3 dimensional, etc. integral he describes as being non-spacial, not an "expanse" but an "intensification"...

[gravitymindofgod]

Exactly the univerese is, was always whole. Divine consciouss looks inward, enfolding itself and by doing so imagines that which is less than itself. Like yet unlike random in position, fractal in structure, and quantum in consciouss.

[MaBu888]

The origin of the manifestation of consciousness is ever-present. XD

[imfreeinfinity]

I listened to this whole video and I find it intresting how to explain these type of topics. I hope you keep expanding your consciousness and aquiring more knowledge. We will forever be in a state of learning and I think that this is what being conscious means. To keep expressing and learning through ourselves. Good video.

[SlimD11]

Most quantum physicists have a saying that relates to this connection of subjective consciousness or the ever present I am, " I am one window in which all light shines through, just as all windows share that same light."

[Spiritree41]

Thanks for sharing...

[HaleyMary]

I think it's interesting to think about how ideas evolve when people exchange them. It makes me wonder if the sharing of ideas makes the consciousness of the universe expand even more. I think it would be awesome if one day people were to find out where we came from on a cosmological consciousness level. or if there even is consciousness out there in space, the stardust.

[ThePointlessPoint]

"we need to stick to intellectual rigor..."

depends what we want to achieve.

[ThePointlessPoint]

seems to be . . .

[Cashify]

@ThePointlessPoint ....hmmm....i don't have any cuffs....prolly the adhesive is enough then.

[Cashify]

@thepathlesspath HEY, no intensifying until the adhesive sets ok?