Ashamed to be an atheist because of crap like this

Articles about 12 memorial crosses for Utah State Troopers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/19/utah-memorial-crosses-str_n_687553.html

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50132157-76/crosses-utah-state-ruling.html.csp

Article from American Atheists declaring "victory"
http://atheists.org/blog/2010/08/18/utah-case-win

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[RDaneelOlivaw2]

I watched it ! "Live and let live within the bounds of reason" I like that ! You can be philisophical ;-)

I say let them have their Mosque. It's not worth fighting over. We have bigger fish to fry. And removing memorial crosses is just wrong. Unless the police officers were atheists and didn't want them. What next remove religious headstones from graveyards.

[PhilosophicalTwerks]

@RDaneelOlivaw2 I've had the live and let live thing stuck in my head since Orygyn said it to me. I'm pretty far from actually doing it, but trying isn't hurting. I don't think all of the officers were christian. I personally wouldn't give a fuck if I died and my family put on cross on my grave or whatever. I'd be dead, and it'd make them happy. But then some asshole comes along and is like "thats unconstitutional" .....I can't finish this without ghost internet tough guy talk. U know.

[baxterman]

to the one who said people are atheists because of conservitive christian familys .. i grew up in a household where we never went to church, and hardly ever prayed or said race or anything ... i was an agnostic since i was 6 and questioned god as far back as i can remember ... and when i actually stepped away from the faith, after a long battle of self confliction with it .. my stress level decreased and i was no longer suicidal

[PhilosophicalTwerks]

@baxterman My whole atheist story is somewhat similar to yours. I've noticed though a number of more vocal atheists do fall into the whole conservative christian family escape type scenario though. Its kinda like old war veterans sitting around and thats all they ever seem to talk about (its not that bad but its a little bit similar) You get "trapped" in something for so long and then you're free of course you're gonna talk

[HomoCyborgZombie]

The crosses are on public grounds, as I recall :P

Also, Christianity is more of a threat politically. Look at all the god damn power they have in America!

Also, I'm pretty anti-Hindu/India. They think they'll just come back after they nuke the world!

[PhilosophicalTwerks]

@HomoCyborgZombie Yeah, they are on public property, and I do agree with you on christianity being a threat politically, thats another reason i think that was a bad idea to go to so much effort to get them taken down. Its bad press for "us", and something that I feel may cheapen attempts at making meaningful changes, when they can reference stuff like this. Pick your battles, thats my feeling.

[panda0100]

the problem with the crosses, was NOT that they were crosses, but that they were crosses paid for by the public, WITH utahs state symbol on it.

which gives an obvious link between the government and christianity.

btw they were not '12 little crosses' they were multiple 12 foot tall crosses.

if the families of the fallen patrolmen had put up the crosses without the utah beehive on it, i would have been perfectly fine with it.

[AugustVHope]

Atheist technically is not a belief, and yes never be ashamed. Although I think he meant he was embarrassed to be associated with atheists who complain that people judge them and then they judge others. They have the same mentality of those that are christian and call all atheist pagans and evil. Yes every side has extremists and not one side is right 100% of the time. -just saying-

[twistedemonalter]

Never be ashamed to be an atheist if you are they win atheist is our belief i strongly exercise it not for benefit but ti show that you cant push your religion us. just stay strong to your beliefs.

[TheEddyMetal]

Agreed 100%. Excellent video.

[TheFreePisces]

I'll say it straight up...

Extremists are on EVERY side of the picture.

[beaum1cah]

dont be an athiest! were in Gods hands we are in good hands. God loves you and Jesus died for you and us all.

[theboombody]

Here's the logic behind your questioning - Christianity is attacked by western atheists because it's the biggest religion in the western world. So a lot of atheists like to use whatever they can to bring it down, even another religion like Islam. I bet if Islam was the biggest religion in the west, western atheists would try using Christianity to bring Islam down.

[ozbo100]

I am not saying that I know you are incorrect? But where did you find information about atheists' support of the mosque? I'm not crazy about the mosque, the crosses, or churches.  I wonder how successful any of these construction projects would be if tax except status were revoked from religious institutions.

[pater429]

@indignant99 whats your problem??

i think you re: messaged the wrong person lol

[indignant99]

@PhilosophicalTwerks I absolutely adore grammar nazis. I'm a huge one.