@NoFaithNoPain I understand how you feel. I don't consider my 20 years of research. I've learned a lot along the way and have had a lot of fun in the process. Plus, the pursuit of truth can never be a bad thing. I was raised Southern Baptist so you can imagine what kind of information I've had to come across to pull me away from that kind of traditional thinking. It was not easy. I still have my faith but have lost my religion.
@joecane6340 Yeah, I get a bit annoyed sometimes and speak harshly, but its only because I hate to see falsehood put out there and I hate to see otherwise intelligent people waste their lives. Lets face it, if you are wrong then 20 years of your life has been wasted researching incorrectly. But thats something that happens in science all the time. Right now there are a bunch at the LHC worried about faster than light Neutrinos, so just imagine how they are pooping themselves.
@NoFaithNoPain Look. There is no reason to talk the way you are talking. Can you not have a civil conversation for the sake of knowledge? Actually, my personal stack of evidence has come from testimony that came from former NASA employees. All of the "vacuum" stuff is speculation.
@joecane6340 Then I strongly suspect you wasted 20 years of your life because you can not sort good evidence from bad. None of the Apollo 11 footage was faked. I suspect this is a weak point in your abilities to evaluate evidence in a balanced way. If you start going on about flags waving in the vacuum or more than one source of light then I am definately out of here.
@NoFaithNoPain I've been researching this field for 20 years and only a fraction of it was from video. Videos are meant to entertain so you can use a lot of the facts through BS. I absolutely believe NASA went to the moon but I also believe that they faked some of the footage because of what they found. Back then they couldn't use computers to remove things from film so they simply recreated it. There is a lot of evidence to support this.
@joecane6340 Actually I have seen quite a lot of this stuff over the years and what I saw was nothing new. People who did not even have the wheel supposed to have built rocket ships. I saw the trend and quit while I was still awake. I mean... how much crap am I expected to watch before being able to declare it nonsense? I don't have to be a professor of Unicorns to know they aren't real. Do you believe NASA never went to the moon by any chance?
@NoFaithNoPain No. You looked at one tiny part of what is available, didn't like what you saw and dismissed the rest. That's closing your mind. Here are your words..." I don't want to see all the evidence if its this wuality." You need to ask yourself why you find it hard to believe. I used to dismiss this stuff too until I realized that the only reason I was dismissing it was because it went against what I was taught and had believed my whole life. I want the truth no matter what it means.
You totally missed the small meteorite "Heat Shield Rock" which is almost covered by the heat shield at 9 o'clock.
BjornPalmen 3 weeks ago
@NoFaithNoPain Oops. I meant to say I don't consider my 20 years of research to be a waste.
joecane6340 2 months ago
@NoFaithNoPain I understand how you feel. I don't consider my 20 years of research. I've learned a lot along the way and have had a lot of fun in the process. Plus, the pursuit of truth can never be a bad thing. I was raised Southern Baptist so you can imagine what kind of information I've had to come across to pull me away from that kind of traditional thinking. It was not easy. I still have my faith but have lost my religion.
joecane6340 2 months ago
@joecane6340 Yeah, I get a bit annoyed sometimes and speak harshly, but its only because I hate to see falsehood put out there and I hate to see otherwise intelligent people waste their lives. Lets face it, if you are wrong then 20 years of your life has been wasted researching incorrectly. But thats something that happens in science all the time. Right now there are a bunch at the LHC worried about faster than light Neutrinos, so just imagine how they are pooping themselves.
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago
@NoFaithNoPain Look. There is no reason to talk the way you are talking. Can you not have a civil conversation for the sake of knowledge? Actually, my personal stack of evidence has come from testimony that came from former NASA employees. All of the "vacuum" stuff is speculation.
joecane6340 2 months ago
@joecane6340 Then I strongly suspect you wasted 20 years of your life because you can not sort good evidence from bad. None of the Apollo 11 footage was faked. I suspect this is a weak point in your abilities to evaluate evidence in a balanced way. If you start going on about flags waving in the vacuum or more than one source of light then I am definately out of here.
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago
@NoFaithNoPain I've been researching this field for 20 years and only a fraction of it was from video. Videos are meant to entertain so you can use a lot of the facts through BS. I absolutely believe NASA went to the moon but I also believe that they faked some of the footage because of what they found. Back then they couldn't use computers to remove things from film so they simply recreated it. There is a lot of evidence to support this.
joecane6340 2 months ago
@joecane6340 Actually I have seen quite a lot of this stuff over the years and what I saw was nothing new. People who did not even have the wheel supposed to have built rocket ships. I saw the trend and quit while I was still awake. I mean... how much crap am I expected to watch before being able to declare it nonsense? I don't have to be a professor of Unicorns to know they aren't real. Do you believe NASA never went to the moon by any chance?
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago
@NoFaithNoPain No. You looked at one tiny part of what is available, didn't like what you saw and dismissed the rest. That's closing your mind. Here are your words..." I don't want to see all the evidence if its this wuality." You need to ask yourself why you find it hard to believe. I used to dismiss this stuff too until I realized that the only reason I was dismissing it was because it went against what I was taught and had believed my whole life. I want the truth no matter what it means.
joecane6340 2 months ago
@joecane6340 But I am not closing my mind. I looked at the evidence and it was shit.
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago