Lies and Debates

Intro into Debate and Lies on C.O.C. site

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Sabbath
• sunday
• jesus
• christianity
• YHWH
• church of christ

[materialclassified]

Nice lesson and k-bar...I was raised, C.O.C. and the day I left it was the best day of my life so far. I need to get this to my mom in Austin so she can watch it. Thanks.

[natzrim]

@materialclassified Thanks Brother. I forgot to take the k-bar off for the video. LOL. Where are you living now? I see your mom is in TX. Tell her I have a lot of things I can share with her about the error in the C.O.C.. I used to be a C.O.C. preacher, then I learned the Name of YHWH in 1986 which changed everything for me. I began to see the other things that were changed in YHWH's Word, so that began my exodus from the C.O.C. and churchianity. Keep in touch. YHWH bless.

[lllllannalllll]

@natzrim "When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat . . .?" (Amos 8: 5). That's a good question! "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day" (Amos 8: 9)  Now all you'll need to do is FIND OUT, if you can, WHEN the earth was darkened at noon. Hint: "noon is the 6th hour." You might check Matt 27: 45, Mark 15: 33, etc.

[lllllannalllll]

@natzrim "To whom is the "New Covenant" made with according to Jer. 31:31-33?" LOL Is the BEST you can do to learn about the NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT to jump right smack in the middle of the OLD COVENANT. JEREMIAH was written right SMACK in the middle of Judaism - there WAS no "new covenant" at the time. "Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt." He made NEW COVENANT.

[natzrim]

@lllannallll Why is it that anything errantly thought to be "Jewish" only is so replusive to pagans? The Messiah was/is 100% "Jewish". To whom is the "New Covenant" made with according to Jer. 31:31-33? Does Jer. 31 say anything negative about them "damned old Jews" or any covenant being made with a pagan ham sandwich eating, sabbath breaking gentile? NO!!! They don't even believe the Messiah's Words when He says keep the Torah, nor do they know His Name!!! Poor pagans, no covenant, no Torah!!!

[natzrim]

@lllannallll "People are perishing for lack of knowledge" is a quote from Scripture. Yes sacrifice is still required. The animal sacrifices were shadows of Messiah, you should know that. "All is not fulfilled, read Mt. 24:20-51, and tell us all when this was fulfilled. It says several times "He is coming", so did we miss His coming and the Judgement Day? Also read Zechariah chapter 14 and tell us when that happened, and notice the Feast mentioned there. You need to quit teaching and learn more.

[natzrim]

@lllannallll We are to "follow" Messiah's way of life (Mt. 10:38). He kept the Sabbaths (Lk. chp. 2, Lk. 4:16). YHWH is Messiah and the Creator, read John chp. 1 and Col. 1:16-18. 1 Cor. 10:1-4 says He was the "Rock" during the Exodus, the "Rock" is YHWH (Deut. 32:1-4). It was Messiah that created the Sabbath for us and His Words will judge us in the last day, or do you believe John 12:48? You are decieved, for there is only "ONE" Word, but you're blinded to that concept too it seems. Repent.

[natzrim]

@lllannallll Acts chp. 2 says "Pentecost fully come" after Messiah's death burial and resurrection!!!! Why do Sunday keepers not believe that? They also ignore the FACT that Paul kept the "Law" and proved that he "kept the law" that you Sunday keepers say is abolished. See Acts 21:24 says that the false accusations are "not so", which is the Greek word "oudeis" and means "nothing at all". The charges are lies, so you make Paul out to be a liar; why must you support and follow the lies? Repent.

[natzrim]

@lllannallll Your arguments only prove you only want to prove what you already believe. It is evident that you do not want to see the Messiah's teachings on the Sabbaths, for you don't believe He's the Way and you don't believe Him when He says that the Sabbath was created for man in Mark 2:27. When was the Sabbath created? The reason "FOR" keeping the Sabbaths is given in Ex. 20:11; why won't you believe what the Word says? Ever read 2Tim. 3:15-16, and is that wrong too? You're deceived.