Genesis and Geology

The Channeled Scablands; Scientific Bias Against Catastrophism. "In the end, the truth of catastrophism did win, but it took more than 50 years to see the project through. And this was despite the fact that the event in question was relatively easy to document through field observations." E. K. Peters, No Stone Unturned: Reasoning About Rocks and Fossils, 1991, pp. 78 and 84. http://nwcreation.net/scablands.html.

"Increase of knowledge about biology has tended to emphasize the extreme rigidity of type, and more and more to discount the idea of transmutation from one type to another--the essential basis of Darwinism." *McNair Wilson, "The Witness of Science, "Oxford Medical Publishlications (1942).

"The theory [evolution] is a big mistake." *Louis Agassiz, quoted in H. Enoch, Evolution or Creation (1986), p. 139 [Aggassiz was a Harvard University professor]

"To my mind, the theory does not stand up at all." *H. Lipson, "A Physicist Looks at Evolution", Physics Bulletin 31 (1980), p. 138.

"From the almost total absence of fossil evidence relative to the origin of the phyla, it follows that any explaination of the mechanism in the creative evolution of the fundamental structure plans is heavily burdened with hypothesis. This should appear as an epigraph to every book on evolution. The lack of direct evidence leads to the forulation of pure conjecture as to the genesis of the phylia; we do not even have a basis to determine the extent to which these opinions are correct." *P.P. Grasse, Evolution of Living Organism (1977), p. 31

"It is true that for the last-eighteen months or so I've been kicking around non-evolutionary ideas...So that is my first theme: that evolution and creation seem to be sharing remarkable parallels that are increasingly hard to tell apart. The second theme is that evolution not only conveys no knowledge but seems somehow to convey anti-knowledge." *Colin Patterson, Address at the"The majority of evoluttionary movema American Museum of Natural History (November 5, 1981)

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[GMBofWIS]

This man is a moron!

[BereanBeacon]

GMBofWIS, "Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progression of science. It is useless." *Louis Bounoure, Le Monde et Vie (October 1983); quoted in the Adovate , March 8, 1984. Former director of the Strasbourg Zoological Museum, later director at the French National Center for Scientific Research. More comments by evolutionists - h t t p://w w w dot warneveryone dot com/evolution_what%20say_evolu­tionists dot h t m

[GMBofWIS]

Which proves exactly... what? For every quotation, for every scientist, for every scrap of "evidence" that might support creationism, there are literally thousands that debunk it, mountains of evidence that testify to the truth and reality of evolution. Call them all fools if you wish, it changes nothing. I'm always amused at being told I'm foolishly believing in fairytales by people who trust in an invisible, magical sky-daddy who made them the centerpiece of the universe.

[BereanBeacon]

GMBofWIS, For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 1Corinthians 1:18,19

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Christians created Science. The Constitution is deeply indebted to Christians. Christians helped to create the idea of the University. Christians give a moral standard that treats all people with love. Christians have given much to all these areas.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 Been the better part of a week....had enough time to run to AiG for a cut and paste answer, or would you like more time?

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 And of course, references: Wilgus, Cheryl K. and William T. Holser, 1984. "Marine and Nonmarine Salts of Western Interior, United States," AAPG Bulletin. p. 765-766. This clearly shows that this is all second-cycle deposition and covers both area and pollen data. For the rest, dig up some college level chemistry and physics texts. Shall we continue? There's so many other lines of evidence that directly contradict a flood it hard to know where to start. Pollen?

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 Now it takes 10^24 joules to evaporate this much water. That is two times more heat than would be necessary to raise the temperature of the entire atmosphere by more than 100 degrees Celsius. Ergo - Noah and his little pleasure cruise - parboiled where they sat. And this is just one of hundreds of formations like this all over the world. And we've not even covered anhydrites, caliches, buried desert pavement, pollen data, biomass issues, or meteoric events. (continued)

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 What we're going to examine today is the Opeche Shale. This is a formation that runs from the Dakotas down to Texas. In the Williston Basin section, at the deepest point is a deposit of salt that is 91 meters thick. Now the area of deposition is 188,400 sq km, so dividing by 2 to get an average thickness of 45 meters you are left with approx 9 trillion cu meters of NaCl. With a density of 2,160 kg/m^3 this represents the evaporation of 540,000 cubic kilometers of seawater.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 "You have provided no proof"? Really? Look back about 3 weeks ago, "Doctor". As far as your personal opinion of me? It simply does not matter. It's about what the data says. Now, I asked you if you wanted me to elaborate, but you've not responded so I shall endeavour to explain my data as clearly as I can. Additionally, as I'm a molecular biologist, I know evolution is a fact, but our topic here is the Noachian Flood, so I'll stay on that. (continued)

[DrHonestruth1959]

@NorthForkFisherman You have provided no proof, and neither has anyone else. Your the one parroting things over, and over. As far as your mind being open to facts, not myths, well, do you believe in dawinian evolution? If so your mind is open to myths! My original point was that when anticreationist leave comments on videos like this one that is pathetic. Especially when they respond to 8 month old comments! I can only conclude that your a troll.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 Too bad the laws of chemistry aren't influnced by your wishful thinking. The salt is all second cycle with a very low bromine count in ppm. And you missed the point about pollen (which in itself directly refutes the flood). And I still note you seem to be unable to refute my data. My mind is quite open, to facts, not myths. Provide proof, and you might have an audience. Simply parroting things over and over, well, now that's pathetic.

[DrHonestruth1959]

@NorthForkFisherman Its just belief. You think its knowledge, but that doesn't make it knowledge. Study your precious salt with an open mind rather than an indoctrinated mind, and you will see that it must have, or at least could have been other processes that formed it. My original point was that when anticreationist leave comments on Christian vids its pathetic. You seem to have taken issue with that point. I enjoy that.

[NorthForkFisherman]

@DrHonestruth1959 Actually, It's knowledge, not belief. Laws of chemistry are just that, as are the laws that govern the flow of heat. But you are at least correct in the first part. Yes, these processes directly contradict a global flood. You don't really have too much to say on the matter other than to restate my data. Have you none of your own that supports it?

[DrHonestruth1959]

@NorthForkFisherman The heat from "these processes" contradicts a global flood? The processes that you believe "must" have taken place to form "all these formations"?