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Should a pastor continue in ministry if one of his children proves to be an unbeliever?

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John Piper argues that good family management doesn't equal perfect outcomes.

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  • @ryheck82 hello my Calvinist brother in Christ, i use those scriptures all the time by the way.

  • to ignore the bible here because some one is liked. there is reasons given to back up gods command that these elders, bishops, or pastors must be the huband of one wife and have believing children. look what if his wife leaves him, can he be a pastor? no! it all has to do with the reputation stated in these same passages. they are held to a higher standard. to many times the bible is disreguarded because a person is liked. hence our churches no longer respect gods word or god

  • Thousands of years ago, to Moses, God spoke these Words; Exodus 33:19 “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” The Apostle Paul sums things up the best; Romans 9:20 "But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?"

  • Believing that we can know all of God or believing that God SHOULD act a certain way is foolishness. He is God, we are not. He is the only One that can answer your questions.

  • @danielvendramini "Jesus still loves you" And so does Aphrodite, so, there's that.

  • @EntinludeX dude, i wanna stay chatting but i gotta work... next time. Take care, Jesus still loves you.

  • @danielvendramini How broken your mind must be to even make a veiled attempt to justify the atrocity of genocide through your primative supernatural mythology. How dare you?

    Disgusting filth. Are you THAT brainwashed, that you so causally brush off genocide becaue of the fable that a ghostlord cares more about human "spirits" than if they're alive or dead???

    What horrid necromancy.

  • @danielvendramini "that is out of context, rule of reading biblical scripture is to always read the whole chapter" Genode is genocide, your contexts are inexcusable and inhuman.

    "blaming God for everything is the worst excuse for not believing in God"

    Either your god is omnipotent or he is impotent. Make up your mind.

    "Did you forget that Jesus too suffered, and died a horrible death for the atonement of sins. "

    A deity pretending to die is supposed to capitulate all of human suffering?

  • @danielvendramini Some 18000 children die every day because of hunger and malnutrition and 850 million people go to bed every night with empty stomachs.

    Any benevolent father would answer their prayers long before yours. Reality however, is consistant. They will die, and your god will do nothing to stop it. their prayers for rocks to become bread will go unheaded, because your god does not exist.

    You need to wake up and smell the corpses.

  • firstly that is out of context, rule of reading biblical scripture is to always read the whole chapter and know what is fully happening, secondly blaming God for everything is the worst excuse for not believing in God. Did you forget that Jesus too suffered, and died a horrible death for the atonement of sins. And don't forget that God cares more about the condition of our souls then of the body.

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