Richard Stallman at UCSD: Must use GNU/Linux name

Unfairness of Linux name (GNU/Linux better); people don't associate GNU/Linux with freedom when it's called Linux; examples of breaches of freedom

See http://ossguy.com/pics/rms_talk/ for an Ogg Theora version of this video, which is the format Stallman recommends

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[fulsomstryk]

I never call it Linux. I call it "GNU/Linux" and encourages everybody to do so. :-)

[355over113]

In writing, I use the term "GNU/Linux" because it is technically correct and all due respect should be paid to the FSF.

In speech, I say "Linux" because it's more convenient and it flows more naturally off the tongue, especially when I'm explaining to non-GNU/Linux users what "Linux" even is.

There are a lot of people who don't even know about it and there's absolutely no need to confuse potential new users with the intricacies of free software's internal politics.

[FreeAsInFreedoooooom]

@luckyglasspig "They made the car...no wait - they only made the tools"

The GNU project did more than make programming tools. How many times do I have to repeat this? Linus wrote and contributed a vital part of the system but guess what- LOTS OF PARTS ARE VITAL. The majority of these vital parts were written by the GNU project because - like I've said before - they made the biggest single contribution

You don't seem to be confronting these facts; possibly because you're in denial.

[luckyglasspig]

@FreeAsInFreedoooooom They made the car and Linus comes along with the engine to actually make it work. Without that you have a shiny turd THAT CAN'T DO ANYTHING. Once again, all they did was make the tools. Linus used said tools and compiled the kernel. Without a working kernel you do not have an operating system. Once again. Only in software land do fucks like you think you should get credit for something you didn't make. "Well he came up with the idea'' Blah blah, fuck you.

[FreeAsInFreedoooooom]

@luckyglasspig You simply cannot say that all they made were the tools. Are you saying that GNU tools + a kernel = An operating system?

The GNU project was named after the OS they set out to write - GNU. People contributing to the project did so in the name of GNU. Linus gave his kernel for the GNU system. I could add the final brick to a house but that does not mean I deserve credit for the whole job.

GNU lead the way and made the biggest single contribution. You cannot escape this fact

[luckyglasspig]

@FreeAsInFreedoooooom That's all it was , the tools. They started a project BUT DIDN"T FINISH IT. Someone else did, had others help him and finished the job. You don't get credit for shit you didn't do. Sorry, that's how the world works. Maybe not in LAZY programer land, but in the real world you only get credit for finishing the work you've done. I don't care how many project Stallman starts. Linux is not his, never will be, and he needs to fucking get over it.

[FreeAsInFreedoooooom]

@luckyglasspig I am quite capable of thinking for myself which is why I am able to give reasonable arguments that back up my view. You, however, simply stick your head in the sand and shout obscenities at people with different opinions to yours

The quote was relevant. You seem to think the name isn't important - probably because you're coming from a purely technical perspective. I believe it is important because 'GNU/Linux' makes people curious about the GNU project and the philosophy behind it

[FreeAsInFreedoooooom]

@luckyglasspig You have this idea that all the GNU project did was make some programming tools. They started the project to make a 100% free OS (which they would call GNU). They lead the way and actually made the BIGGEST SINGLE CONTRIBUTION. I can't believe you implied Linus did most of the work.

Instead of a house think of the International Space Station. If most of the Space Station modules were in orbit but awaiting one other essential module, that would be like the GNU system in 1992.

[luckyglasspig]

@FreeAsInFreedoooooom A fanboy fuck who quotes Stallman (AND REFERS TO HIM BY THAT BITCH ASS RMS NICKNAME) like you can go back to sucking stallman's taint. Get on your knees and lick his balls cause that's all you are fucking good for. Anyone who thinks quoting someone is a sign of intellectual thought is a nut hugger incapable of thinking for themselves. I was taking you seriously for a moment and now I see you're nothing but a bitch.

[luckyglasspig]

@FreeAsInFreedoooooom It's not a difficult concept. Lets put it this way. I make the tools ( a hammer, a saw and nails) and along comes someone who actually DOES something with them like build a house. Should I get credit for building that house. Should that house have my name on it? No. Now go stick your head in your ass where it belongs.

[luckyglasspig]

@FreeAsInFreedoooooom Bullshit. No kernel no OS. Period. I don't give a damn what tools you fucking have. Stallman failed, HURD failed MISERABLY and he's been pissing and crying ever since. I for one can't wait till he dies. At least then I never have to fucking hear him again.

[luckyglasspig]

@nilbud It was enough to get you to comment on me twice in less than 5 minutes. Did I touch a nerve? Fuck you.