Ken Miller on Apes and Humans

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[Gazdo01]

@drionsh Friend, you really need to take a biology class... No offense, but you don't know shit about molecular biology.

DNA in DIPLOID species works in pair, that is, we have 2 X chromosome #1, 2 X chromosome #2, 2 X chromosome #3, etc

Apes don't have 48 chromosomes, they have 24 X 2, just like human have 23 X 2 (46).

Two chromosomes indeed fused to give rise to chromosome #2 in humans... but you have to multiply this by 2 to understand what you find in a diploid cell.

[LoricaLady]

@theinvisiablehand No, they have 0 way of explaining how the fusion may have occured. Yet they present this info as if it is proof positive that we are modified apes. They also never explain the significance of those chimp chromosomes in regard to us as even evolutionists don't say we descended from them anyway. This whole argument is the usual evo pure speculation presented as evidence, seen constantly in evo thought, with the usual gang of logical fallacies, as mentioned in my earlier posts.

[drionsh]

This guys is making a mistake. If you have 48 chromosomes, and two of them fused, you're left with 47 chromosomes. Look: [--] [--] [--] [--] We have 4 boxes. Lets fuse two of them. [--] [--] [-- --] We now have 3 boxes... NOT 2 boxes. Similarly, if we have 48 chromosomes, and fuse two of them, we are left with 47 chromosomes, NOT 46 of them. What he should have said is that an entire PAIR of chromosomes fused. Look: [--] [--] [--] [--] Let's fuse two PAIRS: [-- --] [-- --] We now have 2 :)

[theinvisiablehand]

That's very cool!

So from I can gather from the video is that the highlighted difference between the human DNA which has 23 pairs of chromosomes compared to that of the great ape which is 24 pairs of chromosomes

And so the theory of evolutionary science for human evolution is hinged on the theory that the 1 missing pair chromosome which isn't found in human DNA is a product of 2 chromosomes been fused to become 1

Is there a vid explaining how & when this may have occurred?

[LoricaLady]

@Randomidable We are told to believe in the invisible when told that Fossil A led to Fossil B, C, D based on never to be seen innumerable links between them. How do we tell a "missing" link from a never existed one? Have faith brother! Just belieeeeve! We were told scales turned into feathers & feet into fins. Yet with billioins of fossils we only see 100% scales, 100% feathers, 100% fins & 100% feet. This is the tip of the iceberg ot things evolution teaches that are lies.

[LoricaLady]

@Randomidable Cont. Yes there is a superficial number match with the chromosomes but the content of the chimps' and that of humans does NOT match! And anyway, even evolutionists aren't saying we're descended from chimps, so the argument is bogus all around.

Religion is when you have faith in what you can't see. Like the primal pond - zip evidence life can come from inorganic matter but it's in kids library books on evo, on Nova, & all over the media as if its a scientific fact. Cont.

[LoricaLady]

@Randomidable Cont. About 1 in 1000 people have an additional fusesd chromosome. Let's see if one came from apes, then why not both? But the evolutionists don't even mention the other one since it doesn't fit in with their nice little "proof." 2) The Correlation Does Not Imply Causation logical fallacy. Bees, moths & birds fly. Chimps & tobacco have 48 chromosomes. Snakes & worms look a lot alike. But...correlation does not imply causation. 3) The Fallacy of Incomplete Comparison. Cont."

[LoricaLady]

@Randomidable Guess what? Some people think that evolutin is a religion composed of lies. (Some scientists are not aware that they are lies because they have not been taught to do anything but accept what they have been taught and wouldn't know a logical fallacy from a banana.) For ex. in this video we see the following logical fallacies. 1) The Fallacy of the Single Cause, as in, "Look! We found something new! And only evolution can explain it!" Funny thing. Cont.

[splicedenergy]

@daogdaog You are not factoring in random mutation and natural selection either.

[splicedenergy]

@daogdaog We are closer relatives to chimps than neanderthals. We did not evolve from them. You have this idea in your head that all the species are headed the same way. Which is a mistake. We are related to everything to which degree can be minor or major. The branches of the family tree from the beginning has easily a trillion olive branches. Evolution doesn't have a purpose or a plane. You think species change as a whole. They don't. Many populations branch off into other branches