@LandonInFlorida That is ok When a bomb gose off in their face then they will be sorry. Up North we hada guy messing with a civil war canon ball and belive it or not it went off and killed his poor ass.
Well, in those cases, it is grotesque and blackens the eye of the hobby. Perhaps Eastern European legislators need to correct this behavior, but away from a few isolated instances, the metal detecting/relic hunting hobby is tremendously respectful when freak instances happen and human remains are encountered. It's like people who own sports cars... Some handle them responsibly, some do not, but a few bad apples don't speak for everyone.
There are several YT videos from Eastern Europe and former Soviet territories of individuals sifting through the bones of war dead to get the medals and buttons. It doesn't resemble an archaeological investigation but more like a treasure hunt. (Granted there are also real archaeological digs.) There is still animosity toward the former occupiers, and very understandably so. But it's still robbing from the dead.
That isn't an accurate characterization of what's happening with relic hunters. Most are simply looking for 'lost stuff'. Very VERY infrequently are grave sites encountered. When they are, they are virtually always reported. Matter of fact, not even last week, there was a ceremony to commemorate African-American war dead from the civil war who were discovered by a detectorist. Search "Historical Marker Ceremony for 55th Massachusetts Infantry"...
I see nothing wrong with giving an airman lost in the jungle a proper burial and saving the aircraft for restoration. However, I do think the final decision on his resting place should be left with any surviving family. It's honorable to bring a soldier home. Tragically, we are now seeing desecration of battle field war graves by amateur diggers just to get the buttons, metals, and trinkets for collectors. Saving these war relics from greedy savages should be a priority now.
Usually, unless it was worth taking equipment back Stateside after the war, it was done. otherwise, it was given to allied nations for their own defense use, or dumped into the sea, or in some other way abandoned. It was cheaper to replace than recover, and take home. stuff lost, submerged in salt water was considered unrecoverable, as it was easier to get new stuff than to commit repair resources needed by less severely damaged vehicles.
these are going to need a lot of money chucked at them for restoration,as soon as there out of the water there going to deterioate rapidly..
boleynali 1 month ago 2
@LandonInFlorida That is ok When a bomb gose off in their face then they will be sorry. Up North we hada guy messing with a civil war canon ball and belive it or not it went off and killed his poor ass.
ghosttrain2066 1 month ago
e che c'entra Palermo??????
il P40 era ad Anzio e lo Sherman a Salerno....e ora sono entrambi a Latina al museo di Piana delle Ombre....ma Palermo NON C'ENTRA PER NIENTE!!!!!!!
topobeach 3 months ago
Sherman Merman
Imachowderhead 6 months ago
Well, in those cases, it is grotesque and blackens the eye of the hobby. Perhaps Eastern European legislators need to correct this behavior, but away from a few isolated instances, the metal detecting/relic hunting hobby is tremendously respectful when freak instances happen and human remains are encountered. It's like people who own sports cars... Some handle them responsibly, some do not, but a few bad apples don't speak for everyone.
LandonInFlorida 7 months ago
@LandonInFlorida
There are several YT videos from Eastern Europe and former Soviet territories of individuals sifting through the bones of war dead to get the medals and buttons. It doesn't resemble an archaeological investigation but more like a treasure hunt. (Granted there are also real archaeological digs.) There is still animosity toward the former occupiers, and very understandably so. But it's still robbing from the dead.
FiveCentsPlease 7 months ago
@FiveCentsPlease
That isn't an accurate characterization of what's happening with relic hunters. Most are simply looking for 'lost stuff'. Very VERY infrequently are grave sites encountered. When they are, they are virtually always reported. Matter of fact, not even last week, there was a ceremony to commemorate African-American war dead from the civil war who were discovered by a detectorist. Search "Historical Marker Ceremony for 55th Massachusetts Infantry"...
LandonInFlorida 7 months ago
@efc23
I see nothing wrong with giving an airman lost in the jungle a proper burial and saving the aircraft for restoration. However, I do think the final decision on his resting place should be left with any surviving family. It's honorable to bring a soldier home. Tragically, we are now seeing desecration of battle field war graves by amateur diggers just to get the buttons, metals, and trinkets for collectors. Saving these war relics from greedy savages should be a priority now.
FiveCentsPlease 1 year ago 2
Usually, unless it was worth taking equipment back Stateside after the war, it was done. otherwise, it was given to allied nations for their own defense use, or dumped into the sea, or in some other way abandoned. It was cheaper to replace than recover, and take home. stuff lost, submerged in salt water was considered unrecoverable, as it was easier to get new stuff than to commit repair resources needed by less severely damaged vehicles.
beardo52 1 year ago
It's not Palermo, they're from the Anzio zone.
roselmo81 1 year ago