A few thoughts on Workers Co-operatives

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[AnarchyIsForMe]

Thats called market socialism. Definately not the worst idea I have ever heard. It would not be a bad system. I believe in active-use property rights, which would yield workers co-operatives also.

[patient0Studios]

Its not  market socialism, in market socialism you get back exactly what you put in. So there is no wage or salary system.

[napalmtube]

yea and the problem is that you have to obtain a ton of money to start enjoying life.

[Spillers72]

some capitalists have discovered the value of sharing some of the profits with the workers, thus there are profit sharing programs and stock option plans. If we could could a sizeable number of employee owned (worker) cooperatives that could compete with the traditional corporations, it might force corporations to act more co-op like in order to compete with coops. Such as giving a greater voice to workers (democracy, at least some democracy) and greater profit share/wages and benefits.

[maxistsocialist]

You know and you don't even need to read any Karl Marx books to see how shitty the living standards of most americans is. You know USA has this tricky system of paying many workers 40,000 a year. But you know something? those 40,000s belong to you for a few hours only. But they really belong to utility corporations, direct TV, insurance companies, lending companies, banks, IRS, etc. So in USA the worker who makes 40,000 makes a lot less really. What a tricky system !!

[JoshyPoshy88]

I am a firm supporter for this type of social market system. this way, we can remove the presence of government and capitalist greed from exploiting the worker. This is the sort of worker's democracy that they had in Yugoslavia before the went in to civil war. All economies should be based off the worker's democracy economic philosophy. This system would be the best system, better than either socialism or capitalism.

[markbotv3]

@napalmtube you can start enjoying life anytime you want to it doesnt take a "ton of money" wow you must be a sad individual with a philosophy like that

[markbotv3]

i guess we can add LIAR to your list of vices. i dont believe youve never touched drugs or alchohol. especialy since you are an athiest. not even pope john paul the 3 or mother theresa managed to go through life with out ever experimenting with drugs or alchohol. but i guess you are in denial. i also mentioned gambling but i notice you didnt catch on that. that is because your guilty conscience didnt go off. becuase your ARENT a compulsive gambler...but you ARE a drug addicted alchoholic.

[eboyd32]

@markbotv3 lol you are an idiot. i am straight edge douche bag. never touched drugs or alcohol in my life. i blocked you because you are a fucking moron, which shows when you post comments like that. now fuck off and get a life, possibly learn something, though i doubt you are capable.

[markbotv3]

LOL i hit the nail on the head with that alchoholic drug addict coment huh? otherwise you wouldnt of stopped the debate so soon. the truth will set you free the sooner you admit you have a problem with drugs and alchohol the sooner you will be back in controll of your life

[eboyd32]

@markbotv3 "in my experience workers are ALWAYS alchoholics or drug addicts..."

you're a fucking idiot. i'm done with you and you are blocked.

[markbotv3]

@eboyd32 which is ussually the reason they are workers and not managers in a normal company. capitalism is a meritocracy. that means good behavior is rewarded and rewarded richly. and bad behavior is punished and punished severely. and dont start whining about bail outs. cause bail outs arent capitalism that is corperate welfare and safety nets are the calling cards of socialism. sink or swim on your own merit. stop expecting people to come save your ass when Y0U fuck up

[markbotv3]

@eboyd32 that is a scary thought. i know people who cant even manage their own lives. now you are saying they will be "rotated in" to manage mine? FUCK THAT!!! let them learn how to controll their own impulses before you randomly and arbitrarilly put them in charge of other people. how much fucking damage can a drug addicted alcoholic gambler do to a company before a responsible manager gets rotated in? in my experience workers are ALWAYS alchoholics or drug addicts...