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So vast, yet still so tiny: http://www.ustetind.com/qtvr/over_the_top.htm

God is not a man in the sky. God is not the main character of a book. God is the Other.

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  • I like your concept but... do you believe one can have some relatioship with this "Other"?... eg, does it care, does he not care, can he care?

  • "he" doesn't care, but nor does "he" not care. I think religious feelings, when honest, are as much about struggle as they are joy. Trying to relate to something which is in principle impossible to know can take a lot out of you, but so too can it give you everything. So relationship is possible, but it is never stagnant, never something we could take for granted.

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  • Oh well, i see what you mean. Am still struggling with this big time. I used to be a christain but as i got older... relegion just doesn't make any sense anymore, plainly retarded, which leaves me with more questions.

  • Do you think the religions of today are essentially dead artifacts? Or do you think they only live in the mystic and/or faithful (that they go under the surface of the traditional stories (i.e gospels, Bhavadita Gita,etc)?

  • Really, God is right here and now, not elsewhere or elsewhen.

    So energy can't be in the present? I always think of God (i,e the Other) being in the present, AND elsewhere,etc Thus, wouldn't energy transpire all around us...in us, of us, between us, etc, which I see you dont discount a connected cosmos of energy

  • Energy cannot be created or destroyed (so it passes through no irreconsilable transformation between being and non-being), nor are there any gaps between it, it is non-local and universally connected. Because of these characteristics, it seems that energy can know no Other. But I certainly don't want to discount a connected and unified cosmos of energy. The mystic calls God the Other only so we don't mistake It for something finite. Really, God is right here and now, not elsewhere or elsewhen.

  • when I refer to energy - I guess the theory goes we are all Energy (a dash of pantheism thrown in for good measure)and this energy enamates thru the universe, in us, all around is...something like that..

  • So Energy as the overriding principle of the Other is lacking?

  • There always seems to be something missing. Maybe that's the Other.

  • Thats my mom's theory - its all Energy - but is that just a substitute for the word God I wonder? Matt--- whats your take as well? It all being just energy?? Is something missing in that?

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