Proving the Existence of the Necessarily Existent One *3/4*

Please rate each part and leave your comments to the last one.

The 4th Part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yv8CkmvOhU

Category:

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• Skepticism
• Agnosticism
• FreeThought
• Marx
• Freud
• Nietzsche
• Dawkins
• Sagan
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• God
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[vgraham44]

@templarart It's not ruthless competition, it's called free will. We've been left to our own devices. If divinity didn't allow for free will, we would simply be puppets of some puppet master. The freedom of choice has been granted ,otherwise there would be no point in diversification.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

i wonder,did u watch the video,all?

at least,the third way?

please do it,then we will talk more,i hope,on the last part,please ;)

peace

&regHFD*

[templarart]

Just did... Oh my GOD - the "Eternally Besought One" is an insane, near-omnipotent pile of protoplasm in the center of the multiverse.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

why don't we check the "things" around us?

[templarart]

You have to approach any proposition with the tools of logic and reason using the scientific method. "the besought one" demonstrates no qualities other than power and organization which could as easily belong to a creature acting out of instinct, malevolence or another motive that shows disinterest in our existence. There is no evidence of "determination" or "goodness" or "greatness."

[templarart]

You seem to speak in short sentences.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

u seem to misunderstand...

[templarart]

Let's look at this verse:

"the besought one , can only be found by looking at the good , truth ,live time [living] mercy [love] the eternally besought one gives [sustains to life]"

This makes no sense whatsover and does NOT match up with observable phenomenon. When a bear kills a rabbit - nature says "F*ck the rabbit!" If bears kill all the rabbits - nature says "F*ck the species!" There is no kindness, mercy, goodness, punishment or any of that crap -it's just ruthless competition.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

peace

the important part is this;

"nature" doesn't have the consciousness,power nor mind to create,

this fact requires a super-nature or somethin'

seems so simple,but that's what logic says

peace

[templarart]

An indifferent creator would be no different than a natural event. In fact it could be called a natural event - what's the point in arguing design - all you're doing is helping faithheads believe in silly, ancient gods.