The Manchu conquest of China is arguably the greatest historical event of the seventeenth century, both for the changes it engendered within Asia and for its far-reaching implications in world history. Yet if we take even the simple phrase "Manchu conquest of China" we see that whether the conquerors were really "Manchu," whether it was an actual "conquest," and whether they ruled a land that could have been defined as "China" at the time are all disputable notions. Indeed, historians have argued against the concept that the Qing state can be identified with a single ethnicity, that the Qing rulers occupied China less as an act of willful conquest than as the result of the Ming dynasty's collapse, and that China under the Ming was very different from that ruled by the Qing.
This talk will focus on the process of formation of Manchu power in northeast Asia and on local, regional, and even global dimensions of the rise of the Manchus. An appreciation of several aspects of this process, and especially of the nature of the solutions adopted by the early Manchu rulers to the several challenges they faced, is essential in order to understand what happened in and after 1644.
Discussant: Wen-hsin Yeh, Professor, History, UCB
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ForexReviewsCentral 2 months ago
@ghoststrider45 Then they hide like cowards from the Japanese when they come to take it over eventually leading to Manchuko. A useless country of paramount insignificance. A country that needs China in order to justify stealing a lot of things but no China doesn't need to steal like cowards.
stimsWonderland 3 months ago
@stimsWonderland
Funny how Manchus made their own country and conquered China.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45 Manchu brothers and sister shame is so sad. They wished the Chinese would become just like Manchus when in actual fact deep down they wished to fit in with the Chinese. A two pronged approach which destroys the sense of community. Aggressively press their own culture upon other people and then re encode the historical truth to their Manchu liking in order to pass it off as Chinese. It's so sad no wonder other countries say China steal Manchu.
stimsWonderland 3 months ago
@stimsWonderland
Not really, the Northern or Southern Hans were just slaves of Manchus. They were forced to wear Manchu clothing, hairstyle, and submit to Manchu decrees propagated by Manchu overlords.
ghoststrider45 3 months ago
@Mujangga Hah that's because she is Manchu and has to ride a high horse in order to retain universalistically pretentious attitude towards the rest of Han Chinese who don't share her views necessarily. They always pretend to take the high road even when their rule was totally wrong. They did not conquer, Han Chinese let them in unlike the Mongol conquerors and they tried to encode Chinese culture in their favor by telling everyone to change dress and not write bad things about Manchus.
stimsWonderland 3 months ago
@ghoststrider45 I am ashamed of our Manchu brothers in China not knowing the way history played out. Northern Han Chinese people were having political struggle and let the Manchus into the capital allowing them to become agents of China's future for over 200 years. In this time they burned literary works and rewrote many of them to their own liking. Our central focus should be to discipline the Manchus before they subjugate everyone including Koreans.
stimsWonderland 3 months ago
@kevinrosspo
China was a target of Nomadic and Foreign invadors, most of them were successful, don't hide the truth!
ghoststrider45 5 months ago
I'm actually going to cmment on the video, which no one else sees to had done.
I read Pr. Di Cosima's book and found it very interesting; too bad the first three books of Dzengsheo's diary are lost.
As for the presentation, it seems that women has an agenda and is passively denouncing Pr. Di Cosima. Also, she uses the term "sefl-criticism" which sent chills down my spine. That expression is rhetoric of the Cultural Revolution and Maoist terror. Even at the end, she sounds sarcastic.
Mujangga 8 months ago
Also, KoriSenbay, aka realtruehistory, aka QingIsNotChina, is clearly not here in good will. Reading his comments under various videos, it's blatantly obvious he's here primarily to get under Chinese's skin and to promote Korean-centrism. He wants to make Chinese and other East Asians feel inferior to Koreans - that's his goal.
Lathdrinor 9 months ago