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@zilexxx so is that it ?your country slaughtered thousands just because they choose islam? is that it, even thought they knew even they have the same bloodline.
Their families didnt have to convert to islam what are you on to. Only 1 son had to join the empire rest can speak their own language or have their own religion. Sultan only took kids from families which he gave lands to .
to farmers lads been given so they can keep farming but they had to pay tax and give 1 kids to the service .
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@shadowfax1903 O but you did Bosnian once were Serbs and Croats they accepted islam only to protect their families and their children being taken from them ,if a country wants to get stronger they will conquer others but they want do it in the name of God ,because they know it is wrong ,o yeah they became most fearsome soldiers by killing their own people and families because of the brainwashing they went trough.
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@zilexxx ofc there is no excuse because its a conquest .if every indian knows english.thats because british conquered them.if brazil speaks portuguese same reason...also russians
its what conquest is. if a country wants to get stronger they have to conquer .look at america today ,atleast we did not change your religion , or language ...as for kids and jizya .it is the property of the sultan. and those kids became the most fearsome soldiers of them all..THE JANNISSARY.
leave poor bosnians alone!
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@shadowfax1903 but there is no excuse for what they have done to us ,taking our children and converting them ,killing our people because they did not want to pay Jizya ,and did not want to accept their rule to be their slaves ,also learn a bit about Bosnian Muslims in 2 world war .
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@shadowfax1903 Also i forgot to answer you on Spain where else did the muslims go to Morocco,to France you should really study some history,also Serbian muslim conflict goes very far onto the past ,like fighting against ottomans if we were happy under ottoman rule why do you think we fought against it ,also 2 world war when bosnian muslims were killing Serbs ,cutting their throats ,and cutting of their heads ,there is no excuse for what we have done in this war.
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@shadowfax1903 Also i corrected my message ,Tanzimat gave all people same rights but still barbaric punishments stayed the same ,and could only be executed by law enforcement .Sharia laws had its place in Ottoman jurisprudence ,they just adopted partial laws from the western world ,and with the coming of Ataturk ,Turks adopted democracy ,barbaric Sharia is part of Islam and no body can deny that i dont know why are you even trying.
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@shadowfax1903 Also you mixed up something when you said that moral laws we have is from ottomans ,The Ottomans had associated a loss of military power vis-a-vis Europe with internal disorder and had believed that the empire could strengthen itself by adopting some Western institutions. In place of the sharia, Ottoman authorities had constructed a legal system known as the Tanzimat. The Islamic scholars who had been a part of the sharia had quietly accepted their fall.
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@shadowfax1903 get your facts straight ,my nation was under ottoman rule for 500 hundred years,they were taking our children and converting them ,and making male children(yanissaries) into killers of their own people ,female children as sex slaves,my peoples heads were ending up on the ottoman spears ,also get your facts straight democracy that turkey has and moral values and laws ,are cause of Ataturk ,before that their state was under Sharia ,i dont know are you just ignorant or what.
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@zilexxx when christian catholic queen of spain unlawfully took the lands of jews and muslims who live in spain to create pure catholic spain who do you thnik accepted them to their country ? Ottoman did .sure you dont know these because you have no clear idea of what is going on around you since your history books only cover islam as a cult(in serbia right?) is that why your people brutally murdered bosnians . this whole jew - islam conflict has been created by other forces. divide and conquer
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@zilexxx well your message was a bit wrong ..i think you tried to say you want your kid to live with moral while you wrote you dont want him to or something like that ...well mate news to you the moral law and order system that we use in courts today and also in trade laws was first put to use by Sultan Suleiman Of the Ottoman Empire ...and alsmot every country uses the same system today. apart from that get your facts together people getting punished in brutal ways has nothing to do with islam.
its shame to be a muslim. Islam is so low. There is nothing fancy about islam. the more respect u muslims ask the more ridicule and mockery u get. your prophet sucks, u muslims suck, islam as religion sucks, islamic countries suck. Anything related to islam is pathetic.
huriska 2 years ago 5
first of all you are racist because you blame a whole race of people and not individuals just as if i would say all muslims are terrorists. secound you know notting about jewish culture, because if you did you, would not call it sick and perverted.third hitler did not take his ideas from the jews, and if you want to know more go to vikipedia under nazism and religion. fourth all people want to thrive. im sorry to say you have been brain washed, otherwise you would respect all of humanity.
gadidoron1 3 years ago 4